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hey everybody hope you're having a great

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day today we're chatting with the

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producers of alien abduction answers and

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I found this movie unique because it's

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not just a story about aliens it's a

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unique story about somebody who had an

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experience as a kid who basically had to

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lie about it for 40 50 years and the

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trauma and baggage that comes out of

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that and I think a lot of people in our

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audience that message us and tell us

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about their experiences this is going to

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be something that they can uh you know

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they can glean some some education from

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and worst case maybe just feel better

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about what happened that it's not you

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you're not a bad person these things

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just happen and I know Jay you're big on

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the abduction phenomenon what did you

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think of the movie I absolutely loved it

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you know there's so many people out

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there that have had these experiences

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worldwide and more of these

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documentaries coming out even the aerial

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School phenomenon and John yost's story

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and you know how he got it involved in

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all this it's it's adding to the picture

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of what's happening globally with this

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phenomenon and absolutely the abduction

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phenomenon is a huge role to play

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in all of this yeah and ever since we

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chatted with Whitley strieber I'm now

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more in the realm of how does the

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abduction phenomenon play into the sort

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of afterlife and you know quantum

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physics and all the rest they all seem

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like different phenomenas you know like

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mysticism or if you see Cryptids or

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craft or lights or Spirit entities but

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somehow they're all connected and

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there's a lot of loose ends I know we

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talked to some very prolific people very

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intelligent people and we get the best

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information you can get in this field

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and we still have a million questions so

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I think today will be a good opportunity

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to tie some of that together I got a

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list of questions Jay I know you've got

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a list quite a few let's run the music

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we'll be right back with uh John Yost

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and Deb Shakti right here on UAP studies

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[Music]

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welcome back to another episode of UAP

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studies podcast my name is Louis Borges

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joining me as always my best buddy Jason

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gilmette we got a busy weekend this uh

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this weekend we've got a lot of

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interviews Louie every weekend has

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turned up like this we're doing three

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and four recordings and this weekend is

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movie release weekend and uh a great

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movie we're going to talk about today is

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alien alien abduction answers uh and we

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watched it a couple of days ago very

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well done not only the story but just

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the way it's put together we do highly

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recommend it we don't say that about

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every movie we talk about uh and today's

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guest is John Yost and Deb Shakti

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they're the feature characters of this

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movie

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um we're gonna get to know a little bit

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about the movie and them but first let's

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get to know everybody and welcome to the

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show uh John and Debs

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thank you very much yeah so we'll start

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with you Debs tell us a little bit about

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yourself sort of uh your multi-decade

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career in the the work that you do and

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what sort of LED you into John's world

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uh to help him with with his experience

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wow I you know all I can say is I I

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think we all agreed to do this before we

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came in it just seems pretty evident I

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know that sounds woo-woo but

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um I literally came into this life with

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gifts if you will I I didn't know I had

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gifts I thought everybody well I think

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everybody does have them I just don't

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know that they're connected to them or

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remember that they have them or know how

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to use them but

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um but I've had uh

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contact with extraterrestrials and other

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types of beings all kinds of beings all

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kinds of Consciousness since I can

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earliest earliest memories and thought

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that was normal found out by the time I

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went to school it was not considered

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normal and you know very strongly was

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encouraged to not speak about it so I

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kind of kept it to myself for a few

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years but until I grew up a little bit

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more but I also came in with all the

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Claires if you will the Clairvoyance

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clear audience all of those things very

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psychic very telepathic very empathic

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and able to perceive and at times

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manipulate or assist energetic stuff

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that happens with the human or with

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other beings too

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um so it I've led a really interesting

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life had almost daily contact and have

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some very intimate relationships with

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some of these beings and they assist me

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in my work I was always very interested

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in science and all the sciences and in

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um and also in Consciousness and and so

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forth at a very early age got involved

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with yoga and meditation and things like

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that so these things all kind of melded

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together uh it's just you know I pull

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one thread to see how I got here and

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there are a thousand others of these

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experiences that all kind of came

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together and made who I am but uh by by

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middle of high school I kind of knew I

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wanted to

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explore the mind and and uh the science

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of the mind and so I got involved in

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Clinical Psychology uh

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before I even went to University you

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know got very involved in the study of

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the mind and the great Masters you know

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especially Carl Jung who I later found

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out was a yogi and and so all of these

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his archetypes even came together from

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the yogic perspective of what the Hindus

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call deities and uh so I thought that

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was kind of interesting really they're

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just personality facets of the human

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consciousness

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but as I got into the work as I

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continued my education and my my

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practicum what we found out is you know

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allow these other things to come into

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the work when I was

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visiting with clients or or research

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subjects or whatever you know and in the

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clinical uh field as you know you have

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to kind of follow some structure and I

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just didn't feel right leaving that

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stuff out so I went up I kind of went

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rogue at the advice of my mentor who

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bless his soul is

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he's not in the body anymore but he was

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the wisest person I think ever met and

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he's just like you've got too much to

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offer and this is going to hold you back

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so you make the decision but I'd go this

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way instead of this way and I did so I

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described by that time I was very very

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interested in the study of quantum

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physics it finally I found something

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that I felt like

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explained some of the things that I was

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put the pieces together that we're

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missing about how the universe

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constructed I think and works

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understands most of those Concepts uh I

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don't think so but I have a good

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conversational working knowledge of it

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and uh and it really helps me so by the

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time that I I had that kind of Awakening

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structure anymore and be happy and

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fulfill my purpose which is to help

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people feel better and understand their

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physics studies and decided to call my

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Quantum transformation and the sub uh

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the the main part of it was quantum

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hypnotherapy

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goes way deeper way well it's infinite

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it explores the infinite nature of

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just memories of this life or things

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of a person you know basic clinical

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hypnosis at the time was

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solving maybe personality disorders or

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helping somebody quit smoking or you

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know finding out why they were always

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angry we might go back into childhood to

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see that that was always part of that

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wonderful process and it's still very

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very helpful but uh what started

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happening in my sessions where people

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were going

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to other lives and at that time we were

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starting to hear people talk about past

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lives but being at the you know by that

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there is no past or present there's just

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infinite realities happening all at once

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forever right in the same spot and but

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they're in different frequencies if you

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will and so it's where you tune your

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called them alternate realities and uh

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and by that time I I just took off the

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work started to grow on its own I did

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not really develop this it started to

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that I found out other people had

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developed kind of the same process with

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almost the same template even of working

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um and they called it something slightly

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different I.E Dolores Cannon he calls

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therapy mine is called Quantum hypnosis

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therapy qht and so by that time I kind

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of I I was asking my own guides who

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blow your mind or say that their

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ET group entity uh like a group who are

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us from what you might call the future

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they're us in a different frequency

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having evolved to a higher plane and uh

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I asked them I said what is this deal

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with this Dolores Cannon I should have

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trademarked my name because

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she's doing you know she's calling her

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stuff the same thing she's got books out

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there she's got a school everything and

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they said look

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the process for this the ability the the

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modality was placed in the Earth's

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and there are only a small portion of

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humans on the planet at the time who

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were resonating at a high enough

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frequency where they could perceive it

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and receive it

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and she was one you were one and about a

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thousand other people at the time were

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within about a 10 or 15 year place

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and some of them

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took it used it for themselves and

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healed and moved on and you know became

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great writers or musicians or whatever

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and didn't use it for what you're using

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it for she used it for a similar reason

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that you're using it for but she her

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purpose was to write the Books and get

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the information out there so people

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could wake up and understand and

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eventually start a school and your

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purpose was to just help people with it

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and I thought wow that's really

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mind-blowing and then I started looking

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around of course there are thousands of

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people doing kind of the same work now

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calling it many different things but

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it's really the same work

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um so anyway

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um

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that's kind of how I came to the work

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and I just you know

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worked with people on all kinds of

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things but as the years went by the ET

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stuff started funneling in funneling and

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funneling in until it's about 80 percent

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of who I work with our contactees or

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experiencers or abductees and uh by

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hooker crook

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um

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through a friend of a friend of a friend

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you know I got into a meeting with John

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Yost about something completely

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different and uh

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and that's how we met and I got a

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niggling message all through the meeting

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that I was supposed to work with him and

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help him with something that he was kind

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of suffering from something and I just

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you know I rarely resist the voices in

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my head but I did this time I'm just

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like oh he's gonna think I'm a crazy

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person he doesn't know who I am but

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eventually I I did succumb to it and I

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sent him a message and I told him like

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I'm supposed to help you with something

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I can't remember how it was John but

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maybe you do

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but he got hold me right away and

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um he said yeah

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and so that's how we started working

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together and that work eventually led to

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the film that you just saw that that you

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like so much yeah and John Yost a

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professional filmmaker this is a story

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John you lied about not lied to yourself

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and to others for what 40 years and

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never really came to grips with it and

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and the film is very well done in terms

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of you finding sort of the courage uh to

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go there and then the help that Deb's

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obviously provided so tell us a bit

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about yourself and why did you decide to

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make this film at this point in your

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um wow how do you follow that from wow I

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mean I've heard of people eating their

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dessert before their meal but I you're

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you're going to be really disappointed

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in my story

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good thing you recorded it all right

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I was just gonna say listen I I I if she

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has gifts I am gift less I feel like a

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very boring guy I lived a boring life I

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went to school I went to University I

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ended up working with the U.S treasury

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Department and uh U.S customs and uh I

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was a US customs broker lived overseas

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in Germany uh France a little bit came

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back to the States lived around the

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states and did you know very left brain

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money and transport and Logistics

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business

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um and then after about 10 years it kind

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of lost its juice it became a j-o-b yeah

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and um I just I just didn't feel like I

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was living to my potential and I'd

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always had this kind of you know

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childhood dream to get into film and

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television and so I decided right in the

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middle of my life to do that and I can't

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tell you how many people had uh

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derogatory comments about that yes uh

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they called me names that I would not

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put on the air anyway but that was 30

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plus years ago and uh since then I'm in

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all the major

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um you know Arts guilds I I work around

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the world I do television and

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commercials and films and and long

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format and this is my business is what I

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do for a living

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um as far as how this film came about uh

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it's kind of a mishmash of things

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something happened to me when I was

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seven years old and I was told to lie

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about it and I did throughout my entire

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life and bottled it in

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um and it was like you know friends of

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mine would call me Iron Man not because

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I was strong just because nobody could

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get close to me if you understand

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and so the way this whole thing started

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was really I was I was out on a shoot a

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regular shoot on a place called Borrego

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Springs California it's very flat very

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arid there very desert-like and we were

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out doing this um this night shoot

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came back in it's like two o'clock in

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the morning three o'clock in the morning

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and uh everybody else we're like 15 or

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17 people they were out by the pool

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behind this house that we had rented it

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was this big ranch house because

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we wanted to uh you know herd the cats

389
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if you understand me make sure nobody

390
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got lost and I come out we're gonna do a

391
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toast and I raised my glass I see this

392
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glint of light in the my glass and you

393
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know your mind tries to justify things

394
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tries to figure out things you know

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wants to put things in a box

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and um I say Ah that's the moon then I

397
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went wait a minute I checked myself I

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said wait a second that's not the moon

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I'm the producer on this there's no moon

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we wanted to control the light tonight

401
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as I'm dropping the glass this is all

402
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happening in Split seconds as I dropped

403
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the glass I see this blue greenish

404
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self-luminous

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egg-shaped type thing above the house

406
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I'm facing the house the pool's behind

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me

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and um I'm I am gobsmacked I don't what

409
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the hell is that

410
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and I you know my mind once again you

411
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know tries to put it in a box and I'm

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thinking to myself wait a second oh you

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know what that is that's a that's a

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that's a a mylar balloon that's a one of

415
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those get well balloons or or happy

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birthday balloon and then I thought wait

417
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a second that's as big as a Volkswagen

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how the hell what is this and one of my

419
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camera guys his name's Scotty he was

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sitting right beside me I grabbed him

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and kind of turn them towards this thing

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and he says what the just then all these

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other people that are around the pool

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they all turn and they look and you hear

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these people say oh my oh my God what is

426
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that is that a UFO what am I seeing

427
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and this thing moves and I'm telling you

428
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like that fast vix exit right above my

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head

430
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and something happens to me

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I feel a feeling that I hadn't felt in

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over 45 years and the way I've described

433
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it in the past is this if you've ever

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been on a beach

435
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and the water rolls up over your ankles

436
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and it starts to slide out it starts to

437
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draw the sand down from underneath your

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feet if you feel like you're falling

439
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backwards well that feeling triggered in

440
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me a descent

441
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I lost my mind in a Split Second

442
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I had always remembered all the details

443
00:18:10,250 --> 00:18:07,440
of whatever happened to me when I was

444
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seven but the emotional content the

445
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visceral emotional content

446
00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:15,660
I had bottled up and you know just

447
00:18:21,049 --> 00:18:19,020
tamped down and it came flooding in

448
00:18:22,730 --> 00:18:21,059
well this thing Zips away from me like

449
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20 feet or whatever everybody's still

450
00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:25,020
buzzing oh man what's that this thing

451
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and then it just starts to drift off

452
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into the desert there are

453
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yeah maybe two minutes a minute and a

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half everybody saw it

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I make some stupid comment some silly

456
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little comment to get the heck out of

457
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there and I barricade myself in the room

458
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that I was in in this big house

459
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and uh I pushed my bed up against it I

460
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throw luggage up against it and I am

461
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sitting in a corner on the floor just

462
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weeping like like a crazy person just

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just sobbing

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and and you have to you have to consider

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this this is not a 50 plus year old guy

466
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at this time this is a seven-year-old

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kid who never dealt with it right

468
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so you know I have a very fitful night

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and I'm very upset I'm very and I'm

470
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angry at myself you know in my kind of

471
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business you have to be in control of

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yourself you're dealing with boxes and

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checks and times and all that a lot of

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money that's usually not yours

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so I'm pissed off I'm gonna you know get

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a coffee I'm gonna hit a hot shower and

477
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I'm gonna get out there and kick butt

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right

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and uh I get so far and I can't walk

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outside

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I'm afraid of that Big Sky and I'm

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afraid of that water

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and I now am in sensed with myself I am

484
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so angry

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um because this lack of control is just

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not palatable to me I am a very very

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left-brained anal retentive check the

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boxes

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um you know hard nose you know

490
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three-dimensional guy and this is

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pissing me off

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I get through this shoot and I get back

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to the coast thank God for [\h__\h]

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distilled Irish whiskey

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um but when I get off that plane

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everybody knows there's something wrong

497
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with me family and friends there's

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something wrong with me

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and it got so bad that I mean I went

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into this

501
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spiral of depression and overeating and

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uh abuse of alcohol just anything to

503
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divert my mind from this

504
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this this emotional roller coaster that

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well I realized that I wasn't the

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smartest you know the sharpest crayon in

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the Box I'm certain that there were

508
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other people that had experiences right

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that was my idea IL wasn't special

510
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and I you know I'm going to admit

511
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something to you I I'm not I'm not proud

512
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of this I I searched for people who had

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experiences not because I gave a damn

514
00:21:05,150 --> 00:21:02,700
initially I didn't give a damn about

515
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their experiences I wanted to know how

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the hell could you go shopping for eggs

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and live with this how could you pay

518
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bills how could you watch your kids play

519
00:21:17,330 --> 00:21:14,220
soccer how how could you live a normal

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life with his insanity

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in the background

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and

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um that quickly Changed by the way

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um

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after I started to talk to some people I

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realized

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that there were hundreds of thousands if

528
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not millions of individuals that had had

529
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some kind of brush with other

530
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you know if you take 100 people Ray

531
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Hernandez is famous for saying this

532
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right he says you know take 100 people

533
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that you know and ask them hey has

534
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something ever happened in your life did

535
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you just can't explain and he said

536
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invariably like 80 of them will have to

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admit they won't put they won't put a

538
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name on it but they'll have to admit

539
00:22:02,930 --> 00:21:58,500
yeah yeah there was this one time or

540
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,940
that and so we as a species are brushing

541
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up against us

542
00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:08,400
anyway so my path led me to start to

543
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interview people and start to care about

544
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their experiences and then that led me

545
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to have The Bravery to kind of share a

546
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little bit about mine

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but what happened was along this path

548
00:22:24,409 --> 00:22:23,280
and this is just about where Debs and I

549
00:22:27,409 --> 00:22:24,419
met

550
00:22:29,930 --> 00:22:27,419
what happened was I could recall every

551
00:22:33,169 --> 00:22:29,940
single one of those

552
00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:33,179
um details completely awake

553
00:22:38,750 --> 00:22:35,760
without any kind of problems but there

554
00:22:40,970 --> 00:22:38,760
was this portion of my recollection that

555
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:40,980
was blanked out and since you gents have

556
00:22:45,409 --> 00:22:43,200
seen the film you know at the top of

557
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:45,419
those stairs somehow I got interpolated

558
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,480
with this entity my back was in the

559
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,640
bathroom his back I say him I don't know

560
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:52,559
his back was in the hallway and then

561
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,200
after some flashes and lights my back is

562
00:22:59,930 --> 00:22:57,360
in the hallway and his back is in the

563
00:23:03,230 --> 00:22:59,940
bathroom and I could not explain that

564
00:23:05,149 --> 00:23:03,240
well that's when Debs and I started to

565
00:23:07,789 --> 00:23:05,159
have conversations and she said I can

566
00:23:10,010 --> 00:23:07,799
help you and I have to tell you and

567
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:10,020
remember who I am I'm just kind of you

568
00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:11,520
know left brain kind of guy I'm like

569
00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:14,340
okay little lady you know I know that

570
00:23:18,529 --> 00:23:16,260
sounds misogynist I really don't mean

571
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,539
I'm just being honest yeah I mean she

572
00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:20,880
but I I'm not a small guy you guys look

573
00:23:26,450 --> 00:23:23,580
I'm like six two and a half six three

574
00:23:29,210 --> 00:23:26,460
and I weigh about 270. she is a wife

575
00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:29,220
she's like this little pixie person and

576
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,080
I say it Debs you're here on the line

577
00:23:35,149 --> 00:23:33,120
with me so you know you're this little

578
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:35,159
pixie person and if you see us standing

579
00:23:38,930 --> 00:23:36,480
together in the film she's this little

580
00:23:40,730 --> 00:23:38,940
tiny person and she says well she looks

581
00:23:42,649 --> 00:23:40,740
up to me she says well we'll see you

582
00:23:44,810 --> 00:23:42,659
know like it's kind of like impish grin

583
00:23:47,630 --> 00:23:44,820
and it wasn't that it had anything to do

584
00:23:50,029 --> 00:23:47,640
with a lady and a guy it's more had to

585
00:23:52,270 --> 00:23:50,039
do with me my arrogance was such at a

586
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:52,280
height but I thought who could possibly

587
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:54,000
you know

588
00:23:57,529 --> 00:23:56,159
help me do something I can't do myself

589
00:24:00,409 --> 00:23:57,539
this sort of thing

590
00:24:02,930 --> 00:24:00,419
and she said well listen John

591
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:02,940
you know I'm not really going to do

592
00:24:06,110 --> 00:24:04,080
anything

593
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:06,120
all I'm going to do is help you relax

594
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:08,640
enough you've spent a lifetime of

595
00:24:13,010 --> 00:24:10,799
building walls around you

596
00:24:15,169 --> 00:24:13,020
I'm going to help you relax enough that

597
00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:15,179
you could walk down that hallway that

598
00:24:18,289 --> 00:24:16,260
you built

599
00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:18,299
and open up that door that you locked

600
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:20,280
look in the filing cabinet that you

601
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:21,360
sealed

602
00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:24,240
and you're just going to observe and

603
00:24:28,970 --> 00:24:26,100
report

604
00:24:32,330 --> 00:24:28,980
and I have to tell you guys

605
00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:32,340
I think I was more terrified then than I

606
00:24:36,830 --> 00:24:34,260
was of anything else

607
00:24:39,230 --> 00:24:36,840
and and it was it was bifurcated Terror

608
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,240
and this is what I mean

609
00:24:43,730 --> 00:24:41,760
I was afraid

610
00:24:46,190 --> 00:24:43,740
of what I might say

611
00:24:47,149 --> 00:24:46,200
and I was afraid of what I wasn't going

612
00:24:49,789 --> 00:24:47,159
to say

613
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:49,799
that somehow I couldn't get to the truth

614
00:24:54,409 --> 00:24:52,799
that somehow after all this effort I was

615
00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:54,419
not going to be able to finally find the

616
00:24:59,630 --> 00:24:57,000
truth and my fear

617
00:25:01,549 --> 00:24:59,640
had finally been dwarfed by my need to

618
00:25:03,230 --> 00:25:01,559
know in fact in the promo you see I need

619
00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:03,240
to know I need to know

620
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:06,600
and um and even go one more level of

621
00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:09,840
being honest with you I was praying

622
00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:12,360
secretly

623
00:25:15,289 --> 00:25:14,100
that I was going to discover that

624
00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:15,299
somehow

625
00:25:19,490 --> 00:25:17,220
this was child abuse

626
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,500
but somehow my father had abused me or

627
00:25:22,370 --> 00:25:21,360
my mother put out cigarettes on me or

628
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,380
something like this you know what I mean

629
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:24,480
because look in your audience everybody

630
00:25:28,430 --> 00:25:27,000
could say oh you know poor kid that

631
00:25:31,610 --> 00:25:28,440
makes total sense and I can understand

632
00:25:33,289 --> 00:25:31,620
the trauma and this you know but even as

633
00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:33,299
horrible as that is

634
00:25:37,730 --> 00:25:35,580
that would have been nothing and is

635
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:37,740
nothing compared to

636
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,600
Hey listen I was a doc you know that is

637
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:43,679
insanity you know for the general

638
00:25:48,769 --> 00:25:44,880
populace

639
00:25:51,169 --> 00:25:48,779
and so I I was at a Crossroads and um

640
00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:51,179
and this is when we started to begin the

641
00:25:56,029 --> 00:25:53,460
work on the film because I said look

642
00:25:58,370 --> 00:25:56,039
at this point my empathy for some reason

643
00:25:59,450 --> 00:25:58,380
and it was totally inexplicable to me at

644
00:26:02,570 --> 00:25:59,460
the time

645
00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:02,580
it has just changed and now I care about

646
00:26:05,690 --> 00:26:04,260
these people that I'm talking to and I

647
00:26:08,090 --> 00:26:05,700
care about these people who are sharing

648
00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:08,100
these because I can understand I can see

649
00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:10,799
myself and have pain

650
00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:13,500
and I thought you know what

651
00:26:17,930 --> 00:26:15,720
maybe I could make something that can

652
00:26:20,269 --> 00:26:17,940
help them you know there are people like

653
00:26:23,210 --> 00:26:20,279
me out there who never would ask those

654
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:23,220
questions never not even to themselves

655
00:26:27,529 --> 00:26:25,260
maybe I can help them you know they can

656
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:27,539
sit in the in the comfort and the safety

657
00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:28,799
of Their Own

658
00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:31,140
living room

659
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:33,480
no they can't watch it all they could

660
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:35,039
turn it off

661
00:26:40,190 --> 00:26:37,200
but I can be their fool I can be their

662
00:26:42,169 --> 00:26:40,200
Scaramouche I'll do this and so you know

663
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,179
originally Deb's you know was back and

664
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:43,919
forth with this because you know she she

665
00:26:47,870 --> 00:26:46,080
takes her work and rightfully so this is

666
00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:47,880
very serious you know we're not playing

667
00:26:52,430 --> 00:26:50,220
some carnival game you know this is

668
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,440
about psyche About Soul about you know

669
00:26:57,049 --> 00:26:54,960
your your heart your mind everything

670
00:26:58,610 --> 00:26:57,059
you know but then when I told her about

671
00:27:00,590 --> 00:26:58,620
trying to help people I mean that's

672
00:27:02,810 --> 00:27:00,600
that's the magic button with Debs I mean

673
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,820
she has this Christ Consciousness or

674
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:04,320
she's the kind of person you know give

675
00:27:08,930 --> 00:27:06,960
you anything and she said okay I'll help

676
00:27:10,190 --> 00:27:08,940
you but then again you know she all

677
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:10,200
kinds of rules you know we couldn't have

678
00:27:16,370 --> 00:27:12,480
people in the room it had to be remote

679
00:27:18,409 --> 00:27:16,380
cameras and the actual session took six

680
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:18,419
six and a half hours to my recollection

681
00:27:23,390 --> 00:27:20,159
and

682
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:23,400
um afterwards I was I was I was dead I

683
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,320
was exhausted I felt like I had been

684
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:27,840
beaten up by ocean waves and I couldn't

685
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:30,480
watch it uh for a little bit and then I

686
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:32,220
could only watch it in Snippets but when

687
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:34,559
I finally did I said to her look

688
00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:37,500
this is going to be the Keystone of a

689
00:27:40,490 --> 00:27:38,400
film

690
00:27:42,890 --> 00:27:40,500
you know I knew at that point anything

691
00:27:46,610 --> 00:27:42,900
that I had done prior to that was just

692
00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:46,620
window dressing but that Revelation that

693
00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:50,940
that uh recognition of this and the raw

694
00:27:57,649 --> 00:27:53,940
honesty of it was something that

695
00:28:00,049 --> 00:27:57,659
I was willing and I suffered for I was

696
00:28:03,289 --> 00:28:00,059
willing to risk everything for me

697
00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:03,299
so and I want to get into this too and

698
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,740
Debs you've been studying this

699
00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:06,480
phenomenon especially the abduction

700
00:28:09,649 --> 00:28:08,340
phenomenon and therapy and all that for

701
00:28:12,529 --> 00:28:09,659
quite some time

702
00:28:15,409 --> 00:28:12,539
there are a lot of things about your

703
00:28:18,289 --> 00:28:15,419
story that are

704
00:28:20,390 --> 00:28:18,299
seen in other cases but they're always

705
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:20,400
experienced differently by the the

706
00:28:24,669 --> 00:28:22,500
people it seems It's the way that their

707
00:28:28,970 --> 00:28:24,679
mind compartmentalizes the information

708
00:28:31,250 --> 00:28:28,980
the Oddity of the situation the word

709
00:28:32,930 --> 00:28:31,260
alien we've polluted that word way too

710
00:28:34,789 --> 00:28:32,940
much with Hollywood and movies and stuff

711
00:28:36,590 --> 00:28:34,799
like that but the definition of alien is

712
00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:36,600
something we cannot understand we don't

713
00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:38,520
have the capacity to understand it

714
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:41,100
because we can't think the way an alien

715
00:28:45,169 --> 00:28:43,679
would think so the experiences that

716
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:45,179
we're having with these entities and

717
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:47,520
especially in your case an abduction

718
00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:50,100
causes the brain to

719
00:28:53,930 --> 00:28:52,140
I don't know if that's the screen memory

720
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:53,940
keeps coming up but we were talking with

721
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,440
uh

722
00:28:59,210 --> 00:28:57,360
um what was your name Mary Rodwell the

723
00:29:00,529 --> 00:28:59,220
other day uh Louis and I and she was

724
00:29:02,990 --> 00:29:00,539
mentioning about the screen memories as

725
00:29:05,690 --> 00:29:03,000
well that there seems to be something

726
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,700
that replaces the image or shock that

727
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:07,679
the person had with something else and

728
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:10,080
John in your case that is what happened

729
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,520
to you

730
00:29:16,909 --> 00:29:13,919
um I would like to take you back to just

731
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:16,919
before you figured out with Debs exactly

732
00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:19,919
the whole story what was it like before

733
00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:22,140
what was the movie clip that you had

734
00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:24,899
that was missing other pieces like what

735
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,460
was it that you were experiencing or

736
00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:28,080
remembering about this event when you

737
00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:28,980
were seven

738
00:29:36,889 --> 00:29:33,480
sure I was uh seven it was 1974 August

739
00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:36,899
it was very humid uh I was sleeping in

740
00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:38,520
my bedroom which was on the second floor

741
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,500
of my parents home it was very very

742
00:29:44,330 --> 00:29:42,000
humid as I remember the windows were

743
00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:44,340
open my family was not very wealthy so

744
00:29:48,529 --> 00:29:45,480
we didn't have air conditioning or

745
00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:48,539
anything like that I was awakened by a

746
00:29:56,649 --> 00:29:52,440
an undulating hum or drone I embarrassed

747
00:30:00,529 --> 00:29:56,659
myself and imitated that it was like

748
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:00,539
like that sort of thing waves yeah just

749
00:30:05,210 --> 00:30:03,600
kind of yeah undulating and I was I was

750
00:30:07,010 --> 00:30:05,220
ticked off you know I'm a little kid I'm

751
00:30:08,330 --> 00:30:07,020
tired you know leave me alone let me

752
00:30:09,950 --> 00:30:08,340
sleep

753
00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:09,960
um but I got up

754
00:30:12,889 --> 00:30:11,700
uh cleared the sleep from my eyes and

755
00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:12,899
went to the restroom went to the

756
00:30:16,909 --> 00:30:13,980
bathroom

757
00:30:19,490 --> 00:30:16,919
and uh you know did whatever I was doing

758
00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:19,500
in there poured the water and it ran for

759
00:30:24,049 --> 00:30:21,480
a really long time and I I I remember

760
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:24,059
being confused by that but whatever and

761
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:25,500
I turned off the water and I went to the

762
00:30:30,889 --> 00:30:27,600
bathroom door and opened the door

763
00:30:34,490 --> 00:30:30,899
and they're standing in the doorway to

764
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:34,500
my seven-year-old eyes where it was a

765
00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:35,880
character that I had seen a thousand

766
00:30:40,909 --> 00:30:38,220
times on television uh there was this

767
00:30:42,889 --> 00:30:40,919
character called Ultraman an Ultraman

768
00:30:45,049 --> 00:30:42,899
was from Japanese television and he was

769
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,059
this giant silver guy with these huge

770
00:30:50,090 --> 00:30:47,520
Omen eyes and a round head and he fought

771
00:30:52,490 --> 00:30:50,100
the monsters like Monsters like like a

772
00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:52,500
Godzilla type monster so I thought you

773
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:55,020
know Ultraman was cool uh he was my

774
00:30:59,930 --> 00:30:56,880
buddy you know I said wow but the

775
00:31:02,630 --> 00:30:59,940
difference was this Ultraman was my size

776
00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:02,640
and you know I was I was the smallest

777
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:04,440
kid in my class until you know high

778
00:31:07,970 --> 00:31:06,480
school so this was a tiny little

779
00:31:11,149 --> 00:31:07,980
Ultraman

780
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:11,159
um and we got very very close and when I

781
00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:13,200
say close I mean like nose to nose very

782
00:31:18,049 --> 00:31:16,140
intimate and then something happened and

783
00:31:22,490 --> 00:31:18,059
I felt that floor drop out from

784
00:31:24,830 --> 00:31:22,500
underneath me and uh I became purified I

785
00:31:26,930 --> 00:31:24,840
did terrified immediately and then I saw

786
00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:26,940
all this big flash of light and all of

787
00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:28,440
these lights like blue and green and

788
00:31:32,570 --> 00:31:30,179
yellow and magenta like spinning really

789
00:31:33,950 --> 00:31:32,580
out of fast like I was on a carousel way

790
00:31:37,310 --> 00:31:33,960
out of control

791
00:31:39,049 --> 00:31:37,320
and I I'm I'm fighting you know for my

792
00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:39,059
life I'm slailing like a drowning man

793
00:31:43,850 --> 00:31:41,880
right and as I come to I'm in the middle

794
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,860
of this fight but something strange has

795
00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:46,080
happened I am no longer in the bathroom

796
00:31:50,330 --> 00:31:49,500
he or it is in the bathroom and I am in

797
00:31:52,730 --> 00:31:50,340
the hallway

798
00:31:55,490 --> 00:31:52,740
and I go to swing at this guy

799
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:55,500
and he if I say he again he raises his

800
00:31:59,450 --> 00:31:57,360
right hand and he touches me on the

801
00:32:01,310 --> 00:31:59,460
shoulder my left shoulder

802
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,320
and it's like a wave hits me and the

803
00:32:05,870 --> 00:32:03,600
shoulder and the chest and I fall

804
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:05,880
and and that's that was the point I mean

805
00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:07,260
I can go into the story but that's

806
00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:10,020
really the specific answer to you

807
00:32:15,230 --> 00:32:12,120
right you have a scar on your shoulder

808
00:32:17,149 --> 00:32:15,240
do you not I do to this day sir yeah

809
00:32:18,590 --> 00:32:17,159
yeah that was interesting to see that in

810
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,600
the film and one of the things that you

811
00:32:22,370 --> 00:32:20,640
brought up with when you started to Get

812
00:32:24,889 --> 00:32:22,380
These Memories Back was one of your

813
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:24,899
visions of where you had been taken and

814
00:32:29,149 --> 00:32:27,360
you described almost like a cavern with

815
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:29,159
stalactites and that was very unique

816
00:32:33,950 --> 00:32:30,720
we've talked to so many people that have

817
00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:33,960
had experiences nobody described sort of

818
00:32:39,710 --> 00:32:37,500
a land place it's either Celestial or

819
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,720
it's like a craft with an examination

820
00:32:44,690 --> 00:32:41,760
table but maybe talk a little bit about

821
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:44,700
the things you saw like that sure like G

822
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:48,059
uh sort of you know like stones and

823
00:32:51,710 --> 00:32:49,679
rocks and stalactites like that doesn't

824
00:32:52,909 --> 00:32:51,720
seem like outer space

825
00:32:56,210 --> 00:32:52,919
sure

826
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,220
um uh well thanks to Deb's help I was

827
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:58,799
able to go back to that night

828
00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:01,440
and travel and first of all that

829
00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:04,620
Ultraman as you know was not Ultraman it

830
00:33:10,730 --> 00:33:07,260
was more of like an insectoid type of

831
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:10,740
creature it was dark brown and had some

832
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:13,200
sort of an exoskeleton and had antennae

833
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:16,320
that uh weren't like exoskeleton almost

834
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:19,440
like they were truncated antlers

835
00:33:25,130 --> 00:33:21,840
um and they were using them to coerce me

836
00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:25,140
literally pushing me to comply

837
00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:26,760
and that was why I was fighting and I

838
00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:29,220
also realized at this point in the

839
00:33:33,230 --> 00:33:31,320
abduction is that this was not the first

840
00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:33,240
time this had happened this is why I was

841
00:33:37,730 --> 00:33:34,380
fighting

842
00:33:39,769 --> 00:33:37,740
anyway that's flash I don't know how by

843
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:39,779
what by what mechanism but I was

844
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:41,760
transported into a Subterranean place

845
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:45,440
and this place was absolutely colossal

846
00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:49,200
uh the way I exam where I explain it is

847
00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:51,000
you know if you if I took you out into

848
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:53,340
the middle of a stadium at midnight and

849
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,480
there was nobody there and I turned off

850
00:33:58,909 --> 00:33:56,640
all the lights that's kind of the

851
00:34:02,509 --> 00:33:58,919
expanse that you would feel

852
00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:02,519
and I could smell and feel the moisture

853
00:34:06,409 --> 00:34:04,860
in the air and I could see stalagmites

854
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,419
and stalactites so I could tell that I

855
00:34:11,450 --> 00:34:08,879
was underground and at the very Apex of

856
00:34:14,270 --> 00:34:11,460
a what seemed like a huge Dome above me

857
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:14,280
there was this irregular hole it wasn't

858
00:34:18,169 --> 00:34:16,260
perfectly circular it looked like maybe

859
00:34:19,550 --> 00:34:18,179
there was Moss or something hanging down

860
00:34:21,230 --> 00:34:19,560
from it and there was a light up there

861
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:21,240
but it wasn't a direct light it wasn't

862
00:34:25,849 --> 00:34:24,000
like a spotlight it was kind of off for

863
00:34:28,250 --> 00:34:25,859
example this is a poor example but let's

864
00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:28,260
just suppose the moon was out wherever I

865
00:34:32,210 --> 00:34:30,359
was and it was over to the right it was

866
00:34:35,089 --> 00:34:32,220
kind of the light was spilling into the

867
00:34:37,010 --> 00:34:35,099
hole and in this

868
00:34:37,849 --> 00:34:37,020
Tavern

869
00:34:41,810 --> 00:34:37,859
um

870
00:34:44,329 --> 00:34:41,820
there were other entities and uh they we

871
00:34:47,690 --> 00:34:44,339
did a pretty decent job in our special

872
00:34:50,510 --> 00:34:47,700
effects guys did a pretty decent job

873
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:50,520
um recreating them they were much more

874
00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:54,720
like the gray kind of classic alien if

875
00:34:59,870 --> 00:34:57,300
you will but they had elongated faces

876
00:35:02,329 --> 00:34:59,880
square jaws and in fact as a little boy

877
00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:02,339
I can still remember referring to them

878
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,680
as horse heads or horse faces not

879
00:35:07,970 --> 00:35:06,000
because they look like horses but

880
00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:07,980
because they had this elongated kind of

881
00:35:10,970 --> 00:35:09,900
chin and

882
00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:10,980
um

883
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,220
and so this this this ant guy or

884
00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:16,800
whatever uh I refer to him you hear in

885
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,780
the movie like a little boy I refer to

886
00:35:22,730 --> 00:35:20,160
him as their bully

887
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:22,740
and he was the one who had brought me

888
00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:25,200
there and um

889
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:27,060
but the rest of them were kind of the

890
00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:29,220
ones that were in control okay we're you

891
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:32,520
know and I I was kind of suspended

892
00:35:38,329 --> 00:35:35,640
almost kind of kind of lounging not not

893
00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:38,339
not flat but kind of lounging in like an

894
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:41,220
easy back chairs sometimes thing and um

895
00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:42,720
there were three of these really really

896
00:35:48,250 --> 00:35:44,940
large screens in front of me really

897
00:35:50,589 --> 00:35:48,260
gigantic and all of these pictures

898
00:35:53,089 --> 00:35:50,599
nonsensical pictures

899
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,099
blurry pictures whatever but they were

900
00:35:58,510 --> 00:35:55,680
they were moving at an extreme speed

901
00:36:01,370 --> 00:35:58,520
from right to left and I remember also

902
00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:01,380
this is a silly little detail but I

903
00:36:05,390 --> 00:36:03,780
remember being ticked off because you

904
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:05,400
know I've always been like me I'm always

905
00:36:10,730 --> 00:36:08,460
boxes and you know and left brain and I

906
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,740
was learning it so they don't know about

907
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:12,720
this but I was learning how to write

908
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,320
cursive language right so of course we

909
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:18,480
speak English and so I write left to

910
00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:20,400
right so they were doing this right to

911
00:36:25,130 --> 00:36:22,200
left and I was mad because they were

912
00:36:28,270 --> 00:36:25,140
doing it wrong this is my thinking it's

913
00:36:30,770 --> 00:36:28,280
a little boy and um and the pictures

914
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:30,780
weren't the message the pictures were in

915
00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:32,160
pictures which were in pictures I don't

916
00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:33,660
know if you've ever seen a

917
00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:35,160
representative of this the only time I

918
00:36:38,990 --> 00:36:36,780
ever saw something like this was when I

919
00:36:40,730 --> 00:36:39,000
was walking the malls in the 90s they

920
00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:40,740
would have a picture of say like Abraham

921
00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:43,740
Lincoln or or the queen right and then

922
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:45,180
as the closer you got to it you could

923
00:36:48,829 --> 00:36:47,040
see that they were the picture was made

924
00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:48,839
up of a hundred other pictures of the

925
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:51,420
queen in different poses but as you step

926
00:36:55,490 --> 00:36:54,480
back it was the posit and the composite

927
00:36:57,650 --> 00:36:55,500
was the queen

928
00:36:59,630 --> 00:36:57,660
but the message the information that was

929
00:37:02,349 --> 00:36:59,640
being pushed into my head or downloading

930
00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:02,359
it was between they were inside inside

931
00:37:07,069 --> 00:37:05,640
those pictures inside those lines

932
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:07,079
and um

933
00:37:11,329 --> 00:37:09,240
and so yeah I I you know I'm an Irish

934
00:37:14,569 --> 00:37:11,339
guy so I could talk forever I'll just

935
00:37:16,970 --> 00:37:14,579
leave it there and ask another question

936
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:16,980
did you uh ever get a sense of what that

937
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:19,440
message was like did you make sense of

938
00:37:25,730 --> 00:37:22,800
it as you Grew Older yeah there's uh

939
00:37:27,890 --> 00:37:25,740
like I said the this this session I I

940
00:37:29,329 --> 00:37:27,900
didn't make sense of it to answer your

941
00:37:32,990 --> 00:37:29,339
first question I did not make sense of

942
00:37:35,210 --> 00:37:33,000
it and I owe only through Deb's help and

943
00:37:37,010 --> 00:37:35,220
reliving that whole thing was I able to

944
00:37:39,290 --> 00:37:37,020
start to wrap my arms around it and

945
00:37:41,089 --> 00:37:39,300
start to digest the information and

946
00:37:43,730 --> 00:37:41,099
towards the end of the film

947
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:43,740
uh as I said you know the session was

948
00:37:47,690 --> 00:37:46,079
six six and a half hours and probably in

949
00:37:51,470 --> 00:37:47,700
the film and there's only about 15

950
00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:51,480
minutes of it there's a lot to it but uh

951
00:37:57,170 --> 00:37:55,380
but part of part of that was that within

952
00:37:58,849 --> 00:37:57,180
my lifetime

953
00:38:01,250 --> 00:37:58,859
there were going to be a series of

954
00:38:03,710 --> 00:38:01,260
events where these discussions that

955
00:38:06,829 --> 00:38:03,720
we're having are going to be moot

956
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:06,839
it'll no longer be oh well is it the

957
00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:09,119
Russians the Japanese is it that no

958
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:10,740
we're going to know that we are not

959
00:38:15,050 --> 00:38:13,440
alone that this is and nobody's going to

960
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:15,060
be able beyond all per Adventure no one

961
00:38:19,609 --> 00:38:18,240
is going to argue that sentient point

962
00:38:22,490 --> 00:38:19,619
no we're going to have plenty of

963
00:38:24,130 --> 00:38:22,500
arguments about the source and their

964
00:38:26,569 --> 00:38:24,140
intentions and all that stuff because

965
00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:26,579
that's who humans are we love to fight

966
00:38:31,069 --> 00:38:28,920
right and go to go to Twitter and say

967
00:38:32,329 --> 00:38:31,079
happy Saturday and you'll have a

968
00:38:33,950 --> 00:38:32,339
thousand people who will fight you and

969
00:38:35,089 --> 00:38:33,960
say what do you have against Friday and

970
00:38:37,609 --> 00:38:35,099
then you'll have another thousand people

971
00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:37,619
who'll say you're a Sunday denier and

972
00:38:42,349 --> 00:38:38,820
we're fighting about nothing right

973
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,359
identify as a Tuesday yeah yes yes so so

974
00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:44,400
we'll fight about that but there will be

975
00:38:48,650 --> 00:38:46,980
no more questions about okay we're the

976
00:38:52,609 --> 00:38:48,660
only intelligence in the world no one

977
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:52,619
will have uh you know a dog in that race

978
00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:55,920
if you will and um and also that it will

979
00:38:59,089 --> 00:38:56,760
be

980
00:39:01,550 --> 00:38:59,099
a war for the soul of man

981
00:39:05,630 --> 00:39:01,560
um and what and I don't mean that as a

982
00:39:08,569 --> 00:39:05,640
sexist I I just soul of of humankind and

983
00:39:10,910 --> 00:39:08,579
what this is really is this I've said a

984
00:39:13,130 --> 00:39:10,920
thousand times if I've said it once that

985
00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:13,140
my film is not about the bright shiny

986
00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:14,820
lights in the sky yeah it's part of the

987
00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:18,420
sense but it's more about you me us uh

988
00:39:21,950 --> 00:39:20,040
it's about Consciousness our soul it's

989
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:21,960
who we are as a species because watch

990
00:39:26,450 --> 00:39:24,480
this when those bright shiny lights in

991
00:39:29,470 --> 00:39:26,460
the sky blink out

992
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:29,480
there's just us left right we

993
00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:31,680
collectively as a species are going to

994
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:33,540
have to make a decision

995
00:39:39,050 --> 00:39:36,240
you know we're going to have to decide

996
00:39:41,329 --> 00:39:39,060
to engage we're going to have to decide

997
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:41,339
to fight we're going to have to decide

998
00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:44,400
to negate we're going to have to decide

999
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,380
to ignore

1000
00:39:50,089 --> 00:39:48,240
it's not going to work with two or three

1001
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,099
of us it's not going to work with you

1002
00:39:56,089 --> 00:39:53,040
know the community it is a decision all

1003
00:39:58,250 --> 00:39:56,099
of us or or our governments this is why

1004
00:39:59,630 --> 00:39:58,260
disclosure being held in the hands of

1005
00:40:02,690 --> 00:39:59,640
governments or people thinking that's

1006
00:40:06,349 --> 00:40:02,700
going to be the case is just so it's so

1007
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:06,359
unwise it's so unwise

1008
00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:08,160
um

1009
00:40:12,849 --> 00:40:10,619
I'm sorry I just got a call there I

1010
00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:12,859
apologize uh

1011
00:40:19,490 --> 00:40:16,440
and so it's just so unwise because

1012
00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:19,500
we this is this is a calling card for

1013
00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:22,740
Yeomans this is this is time for

1014
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:25,260
our adolescents to kind of be weaned

1015
00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:26,880
away from us and us to become an adult

1016
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,980
about this and as you guys know I mean

1017
00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:30,960
look we're all middle aged I'm I'm older

1018
00:40:35,410 --> 00:40:33,900
than you but you know uh so as the old

1019
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,420
guy in the room I'll just say this

1020
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,440
adolescent sucks

1021
00:40:41,150 --> 00:40:39,119
you know you go through the ugly stage

1022
00:40:42,770 --> 00:40:41,160
you make all the wrong mistakes and you

1023
00:40:44,210 --> 00:40:42,780
you say things and you think that you're

1024
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,220
full of it and you think that you know

1025
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:46,560
everything and and look how wise you

1026
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:49,020
become as you get older you know so this

1027
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:51,119
is where we are as a species

1028
00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:52,800
Debs I wanted to ask you about your

1029
00:40:56,750 --> 00:40:55,320
Technique the quantum hypnotherapy and a

1030
00:40:59,390 --> 00:40:56,760
lot of people we've spoken to have had

1031
00:41:01,370 --> 00:40:59,400
hypnotic regressions there's varying

1032
00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:01,380
methods as you alluded to earlier but

1033
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:03,180
what's specifically about Quantum

1034
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:06,720
hypnotherapy is different that can bring

1035
00:41:11,089 --> 00:41:08,880
out such an emotional response from

1036
00:41:12,650 --> 00:41:11,099
somebody as opposed to just regular

1037
00:41:14,329 --> 00:41:12,660
hypnotherapy that somebody might use

1038
00:41:16,430 --> 00:41:14,339
like you said to quit smoking or

1039
00:41:19,849 --> 00:41:16,440
whatever maybe you could touch on that a

1040
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,859
bit yeah well it's kind of esoteric and

1041
00:41:23,810 --> 00:41:21,359
at first

1042
00:41:26,030 --> 00:41:23,820
when they hear about it think oh that

1043
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,040
just can't be but

1044
00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:27,839
um as I said I've been a yogi all my

1045
00:41:33,290 --> 00:41:29,160
life as well

1046
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:33,300
and uh what the yogis and and and many

1047
00:41:40,370 --> 00:41:36,079
other you know ancient Traditions

1048
00:41:43,130 --> 00:41:40,380
mystical Traditions know is that we

1049
00:41:46,130 --> 00:41:43,140
literally have

1050
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:46,140
a radio transceiver up in the top of our

1051
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:47,040
brain

1052
00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:50,240
scientists now call it a pineal gland

1053
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:55,740
and that tiny little pea-sized gland in

1054
00:42:01,010 --> 00:41:57,839
the top Center of your brain is filled

1055
00:42:03,890 --> 00:42:01,020
with millions of little tiny crystals

1056
00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:03,900
and there are there are a rhomboid shape

1057
00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:06,200
they're a specific shape

1058
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:09,960
what what I learned and put together

1059
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:13,140
with the quantum physics part and the

1060
00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:15,839
uh hypnosis part is that if you do

1061
00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:17,880
certain practices that have been passed

1062
00:42:22,970 --> 00:42:19,800
down for eons and I think probably

1063
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:22,980
predate humans by the way

1064
00:42:28,430 --> 00:42:26,880
um if you do certain things you activate

1065
00:42:31,609 --> 00:42:28,440
that thing

1066
00:42:35,210 --> 00:42:31,619
it's always on but it's it's like on

1067
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,220
sleep mode in most humans if you do

1068
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:37,680
certain practices some

1069
00:42:43,069 --> 00:42:40,560
very specific types of breath work

1070
00:42:46,670 --> 00:42:43,079
some sound technology

1071
00:42:49,130 --> 00:42:46,680
what yogis might call Mantra or you know

1072
00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:49,140
some doing something with your voice

1073
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,480
and you do certain things with your body

1074
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:53,280
which are

1075
00:42:57,770 --> 00:42:54,960
everyone can do unless you're totally

1076
00:42:59,210 --> 00:42:57,780
paralyzed anybody I work with can do

1077
00:43:01,490 --> 00:42:59,220
this

1078
00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:01,500
um if you do these things for even a

1079
00:43:04,970 --> 00:43:03,660
short amount of time

1080
00:43:07,849 --> 00:43:04,980
and

1081
00:43:09,950 --> 00:43:07,859
you do it with intention the energy in

1082
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:09,960
your body you pre literally you

1083
00:43:16,490 --> 00:43:12,240
pressurize your body oxygenate it you

1084
00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:16,500
inject you energize it you harmonize the

1085
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:18,780
cellular material of your body your

1086
00:43:23,390 --> 00:43:21,359
body's mostly water

1087
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:23,400
and we know if you

1088
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,280
put electricity to water it starts to do

1089
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:28,079
some things right or electricity to

1090
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,000
certain things so if you do these

1091
00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:31,920
practices and you do them with the

1092
00:43:37,250 --> 00:43:32,940
intention

1093
00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:37,260
working with conscious Consciousness not

1094
00:43:40,609 --> 00:43:39,300
just with the quantum field if you do

1095
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:40,619
these things

1096
00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:43,440
you literally light that little thing up

1097
00:43:49,069 --> 00:43:46,200
because the little crystals inside the

1098
00:43:51,890 --> 00:43:49,079
the gland become pressurized and they

1099
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:51,900
start to vibrate and they start to

1100
00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:54,240
oscillate and then all the cells in your

1101
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:56,700
body which also contain contain Crystal

1102
00:44:01,730 --> 00:43:59,520
material all the water has crystals in

1103
00:44:03,890 --> 00:44:01,740
it they all start to vibrate in

1104
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:03,900
coherence what we call Quantum coherence

1105
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:06,839
when that happens and you apply some

1106
00:44:10,910 --> 00:44:08,880
pressure by holding your breath and

1107
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:10,920
squeezing your muscles

1108
00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:14,640
all that energy goes up there and it

1109
00:44:19,870 --> 00:44:16,740
pressurizes those crystals and causes

1110
00:44:22,609 --> 00:44:19,880
what we know as the

1111
00:44:25,010 --> 00:44:22,619
piezoelectrical effect it is the thing

1112
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:25,020
that runs every one of your electronic

1113
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:27,839
devices it's the thing that ran the very

1114
00:44:32,569 --> 00:44:29,760
first radio they used to call them

1115
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:32,579
Crystal radios for that for that fat so

1116
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:36,720
this little thing becomes energized and

1117
00:44:42,410 --> 00:44:38,940
it starts to

1118
00:44:45,230 --> 00:44:42,420
not just open up to other frequencies

1119
00:44:48,170 --> 00:44:45,240
that we normally can't hear or see or

1120
00:44:49,730 --> 00:44:48,180
perceive but it also transmits so it's a

1121
00:44:52,670 --> 00:44:49,740
transceiver it's not just a radio

1122
00:44:57,650 --> 00:44:52,680
receiver it is a transceiver it's a

1123
00:45:02,270 --> 00:45:00,650
um we are very able and the person's in

1124
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,280
a relaxed State that's where the

1125
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:04,800
hypnosis part comes through we put all

1126
00:45:09,710 --> 00:45:06,240
these things together at the beginning

1127
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:09,720
of the hypnosis session proper

1128
00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:14,880
suddenly you are able to go to any one

1129
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:16,680
of those alternate lives

1130
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:20,160
or even any scene

1131
00:45:26,210 --> 00:45:23,520
in the history of history and see it

1132
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:26,220
clearly and not just see it perceive it

1133
00:45:29,809 --> 00:45:29,040
but feel it and taste it and smell it

1134
00:45:35,630 --> 00:45:29,819
and

1135
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:35,640
powerful as John mentioned when he was

1136
00:45:41,329 --> 00:45:38,400
in that that Cavern place he didn't just

1137
00:45:45,170 --> 00:45:41,339
see it he smelled it he felt the

1138
00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:45,180
humidity he felt the air pressure the

1139
00:45:49,970 --> 00:45:47,940
barometric pressure all these things so

1140
00:45:53,630 --> 00:45:49,980
it's a comprehensive

1141
00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:53,640
tuning in to that information that data

1142
00:45:59,630 --> 00:45:56,280
and that data exists forever everywhere

1143
00:46:03,050 --> 00:45:59,640
all at once forever all of us have

1144
00:46:05,690 --> 00:46:03,060
access to this it's just tuning in your

1145
00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:05,700
dial and the way you do it is to get

1146
00:46:11,150 --> 00:46:08,520
relaxed which is my job to help the

1147
00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:11,160
person get relaxed with you know my

1148
00:46:17,690 --> 00:46:14,940
voice and a little bit of guided imagery

1149
00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:17,700
um definitely you know having to gain

1150
00:46:23,150 --> 00:46:20,040
rapport with a person but this practice

1151
00:46:24,890 --> 00:46:23,160
is what makes it this breath work the

1152
00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:24,900
sound technology using of the voice

1153
00:46:30,890 --> 00:46:27,300
squeezing of the muscles just for a few

1154
00:46:35,870 --> 00:46:33,890
turns that on and allows us to go

1155
00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:35,880
anywhere we want to go

1156
00:46:41,210 --> 00:46:39,480
and you know so people might go to the

1157
00:46:43,309 --> 00:46:41,220
Future it might go to the past if you

1158
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:43,319
want to call it that

1159
00:46:49,790 --> 00:46:47,040
um they might find out that their they

1160
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:49,800
exist somewhere as a beam of light or as

1161
00:46:56,089 --> 00:46:54,000
a mantis being or as a frog or you know

1162
00:46:57,890 --> 00:46:56,099
who knows

1163
00:46:59,809 --> 00:46:57,900
every time I think I've heard and seen

1164
00:47:02,210 --> 00:46:59,819
it all in these sessions

1165
00:47:04,490 --> 00:47:02,220
something new happens and it's the most

1166
00:47:06,670 --> 00:47:04,500
fascinating thing but that's what sets

1167
00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:06,680
it apart from

1168
00:47:13,069 --> 00:47:10,079
the other types of hypnosis the other

1169
00:47:16,430 --> 00:47:13,079
piece is often

1170
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:16,440
almost every time the person's kind of

1171
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:18,480
highest level that they can get to we

1172
00:47:23,450 --> 00:47:21,839
call a higher self or Source self or you

1173
00:47:24,410 --> 00:47:23,460
know everybody has a different name for

1174
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:24,420
it

1175
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:35,280
see John change

1176
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:37,740
from the John who's sitting there

1177
00:47:42,650 --> 00:47:40,319
relaxed and answering questions he goes

1178
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:42,660
from being a seven-year-old boy to

1179
00:47:48,829 --> 00:47:45,920
suddenly being this very authoritative

1180
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:48,839
knowledgeable Super Wise being with the

1181
00:47:55,490 --> 00:47:51,839
booming voice and the big body

1182
00:47:57,650 --> 00:47:55,500
um giving forth wisdom that that puts it

1183
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,660
all together and there's just a little

1184
00:48:00,410 --> 00:47:59,280
piece of that in the movie but I can

1185
00:48:05,390 --> 00:48:00,420
tell you

1186
00:48:11,329 --> 00:48:07,609
sessions I've ever had

1187
00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:11,339
where I was very very honored to speak

1188
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:14,280
with someone's higher self with the god

1189
00:48:18,589 --> 00:48:16,079
part of themselves

1190
00:48:20,089 --> 00:48:18,599
there was so much that was said

1191
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:20,099
um I'm glad it was all recorded

1192
00:48:25,550 --> 00:48:22,319
hopefully it'll be used somewhere else

1193
00:48:28,609 --> 00:48:25,560
little pieces of it but it literally

1194
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:28,619
changes lives because when we go there

1195
00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:31,920
then healing happens when you know

1196
00:48:37,130 --> 00:48:33,960
something and it's and it's clear to you

1197
00:48:39,890 --> 00:48:37,140
and it's maybe with its help has been

1198
00:48:41,950 --> 00:48:39,900
explained to you a little more fully so

1199
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:41,960
that you can tie everything together

1200
00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:44,640
the fear-based

1201
00:48:51,890 --> 00:48:48,900
energy that has surrounded something or

1202
00:48:55,250 --> 00:48:51,900
the confusing energy it's just not there

1203
00:48:56,809 --> 00:48:55,260
anymore and what gets replaced and this

1204
00:48:59,390 --> 00:48:56,819
is the other important part that I think

1205
00:49:01,309 --> 00:48:59,400
happens in these sessions that often

1206
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:01,319
doesn't happen in clinical sessions is

1207
00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:04,079
there's always a call to action

1208
00:49:11,390 --> 00:49:07,800
there's always something that is

1209
00:49:14,089 --> 00:49:11,400
brought out for the client

1210
00:49:15,950 --> 00:49:14,099
like they know their purpose or they get

1211
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:15,960
a little nudge to do something

1212
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:17,400
completely different than they've ever

1213
00:49:22,670 --> 00:49:19,680
done before that sets them on the path

1214
00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:22,680
for what their purpose is what the yogis

1215
00:49:27,710 --> 00:49:25,260
call their Dharma and

1216
00:49:31,309 --> 00:49:27,720
for me that is one of the most profound

1217
00:49:32,690 --> 00:49:31,319
things a person can do in their life you

1218
00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:32,700
know if you don't know what your purpose

1219
00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:34,500
is you can just kind of wander around

1220
00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:38,220
and do this and that and it's okay but

1221
00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:40,140
when you're on fire with a purpose like

1222
00:49:44,270 --> 00:49:41,460
John is

1223
00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:44,280
your life takes on a whole new layer of

1224
00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:46,680
meaning and I believe that's what this

1225
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,540
work is all about so that's what makes

1226
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:50,160
it different long answer to a short

1227
00:49:54,290 --> 00:49:52,380
question no amazing

1228
00:49:57,410 --> 00:49:54,300
well I was uh surprised because in the

1229
00:50:00,890 --> 00:49:57,420
movie you had um a Roper pull I think

1230
00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:00,900
was 1991 that said average one in 50

1231
00:50:05,150 --> 00:50:03,240
people have had an abducted or an

1232
00:50:08,809 --> 00:50:05,160
abduction that would be roughly about

1233
00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:08,819
6.6 million U.S citizens that's not

1234
00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:10,920
Global Citizens that's just one country

1235
00:50:15,410 --> 00:50:12,540
right

1236
00:50:17,450 --> 00:50:15,420
so if if that's the case and even all

1237
00:50:19,010 --> 00:50:17,460
the sightings that we have throughout

1238
00:50:22,490 --> 00:50:19,020
the world I know that you know you could

1239
00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:22,500
eliminate 95 of them as being you know

1240
00:50:27,530 --> 00:50:25,740
common things in our skies but it's the

1241
00:50:29,210 --> 00:50:27,540
five percent that remain that we're

1242
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:29,220
really interested in

1243
00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:31,500
what is fascinating about this is that

1244
00:50:35,450 --> 00:50:33,900
maybe about a quarter of all sightings

1245
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:35,460
usually involves some kind of

1246
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:38,640
interactions with either the craft or

1247
00:50:42,829 --> 00:50:41,520
the entities of The Craft so there's a

1248
00:50:44,750 --> 00:50:42,839
lot of sightings but a lot of people

1249
00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:44,760
have had these experiences John like

1250
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:46,260
yourselves

1251
00:50:51,530 --> 00:50:49,920
um they just don't remember it and those

1252
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:51,540
of you that have had these experiences

1253
00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:53,400
that are able to remember and that know

1254
00:50:57,950 --> 00:50:55,980
something went there it's almost like it

1255
00:50:59,809 --> 00:50:57,960
wasn't intended for you to remember but

1256
00:51:02,230 --> 00:50:59,819
you do like part of your brain said

1257
00:51:05,569 --> 00:51:02,240
capture this this is really happening

1258
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:05,579
your five senses kicked in when you were

1259
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:07,680
taken so you were aware of the situation

1260
00:51:11,390 --> 00:51:09,660
because you mentioned a smell

1261
00:51:13,250 --> 00:51:11,400
have you ever smelled anything like that

1262
00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:13,260
again like anything close to the smell

1263
00:51:18,849 --> 00:51:16,140
that you smell that that night

1264
00:51:27,170 --> 00:51:22,430
this is probably a red herring but uh

1265
00:51:28,490 --> 00:51:27,180
we had to recreate that

1266
00:51:31,010 --> 00:51:28,500
um Cavern

1267
00:51:33,890 --> 00:51:31,020
and we went to a place in Pennsylvania

1268
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:33,900
called Laurel Caverns

1269
00:51:39,230 --> 00:51:36,720
and they're very very extensive

1270
00:51:43,069 --> 00:51:39,240
and uh we so we set up and uh you know

1271
00:51:45,890 --> 00:51:43,079
at this point I'm I'm really living an

1272
00:51:49,250 --> 00:51:45,900
emotional roller coaster you know uh

1273
00:51:52,370 --> 00:51:49,260
moments of uh complete Elation and then

1274
00:51:53,870 --> 00:51:52,380
moments of complete desolation just

1275
00:51:56,990 --> 00:51:53,880
because you know

1276
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,000
I I'm I realize at this point that this

1277
00:52:03,770 --> 00:52:00,000
stuff is real and I am

1278
00:52:06,829 --> 00:52:03,780
I am documenting it and

1279
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,839
um and I I make this little joke I say

1280
00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:08,640
look you know this body is not the

1281
00:52:15,470 --> 00:52:11,700
result of one Double Whopper it's years

1282
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:15,480
of abuse right so so so my trauma was

1283
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:19,920
not based on one single fabrication or

1284
00:52:25,250 --> 00:52:22,319
one single lie or one single experience

1285
00:52:28,010 --> 00:52:25,260
or one single you know obfuscation of

1286
00:52:32,089 --> 00:52:28,020
the truth this was an entire 45 years of

1287
00:52:34,670 --> 00:52:32,099
whatever concentrated you know just and

1288
00:52:36,589 --> 00:52:34,680
so healing from it is a different thing

1289
00:52:38,750 --> 00:52:36,599
than saying okay well I got it you know

1290
00:52:40,910 --> 00:52:38,760
just rub dirt and take a lap

1291
00:52:45,770 --> 00:52:40,920
so I got to a certain point in those

1292
00:52:48,290 --> 00:52:45,780
caverns and I scented that that smell I

1293
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:48,300
could not go in I literally had to give

1294
00:52:53,150 --> 00:52:51,359
up my director hat to somebody else to

1295
00:52:54,770 --> 00:52:53,160
capture I mean I had light it laid it

1296
00:52:57,530 --> 00:52:54,780
all out about the the scenes we wanted

1297
00:53:01,010 --> 00:52:57,540
to get but I could not walk in there and

1298
00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:01,020
uh so you know just yes so the answer is

1299
00:53:05,870 --> 00:53:03,780
yes I'm sorry so how do you deal with

1300
00:53:08,329 --> 00:53:05,880
the question of why me and I know that's

1301
00:53:09,950 --> 00:53:08,339
difficult as a seven-year-old kid and

1302
00:53:11,569 --> 00:53:09,960
especially as an adult I've never gone

1303
00:53:13,549 --> 00:53:11,579
through that but I can imagine there

1304
00:53:15,470 --> 00:53:13,559
would be some anger like why me I was

1305
00:53:17,210 --> 00:53:15,480
just a kid and now I have all this

1306
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:17,220
baggage I have to deal with so how did

1307
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:19,200
you sort of come to terms with that and

1308
00:53:21,470 --> 00:53:20,400
did you ever have those feelings

1309
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:21,480
yourself

1310
00:53:25,549 --> 00:53:23,460
well you know that's a like everything

1311
00:53:26,089 --> 00:53:25,559
is a multi-faceted answer

1312
00:53:29,390 --> 00:53:26,099
um

1313
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:29,400
I I say I say in the film you know I I

1314
00:53:33,470 --> 00:53:31,920
wondered sometimes you know was I being

1315
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:33,480
punished for something

1316
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,000
or being blessed you know I didn't know

1317
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:39,359
and um

1318
00:53:44,690 --> 00:53:42,240
and I I always felt like I had been

1319
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,700
accosted by a bully All My Life as a

1320
00:53:47,630 --> 00:53:46,079
little boy I felt like a bully had

1321
00:53:49,490 --> 00:53:47,640
beaten me up a bully headed taken

1322
00:53:53,150 --> 00:53:49,500
advantage of me this sort of thing

1323
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:53,160
and and you know I know Debs will yell

1324
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:54,839
at me or shake her finger at me because

1325
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:56,880
I always say hey I say I don't know I

1326
00:54:00,890 --> 00:53:58,559
think these guys made a mistake they

1327
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:00,900
were looking for somebody else and they

1328
00:54:05,329 --> 00:54:03,119
made they got lost and they just picked

1329
00:54:08,030 --> 00:54:05,339
me up accidentally it was the new guy

1330
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:08,040
yeah yeah I got the new guy thing you

1331
00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:08,880
know

1332
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:12,720
stuff is all kind of interconnected you

1333
00:54:16,190 --> 00:54:14,400
know you people ask me all the time

1334
00:54:18,109 --> 00:54:16,200
about the community I don't know anybody

1335
00:54:19,370 --> 00:54:18,119
really in the community I'm not part of

1336
00:54:21,950 --> 00:54:19,380
the community I'm just like this kid

1337
00:54:24,410 --> 00:54:21,960
going hey what the hell's going on here

1338
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,420
just searching for answers but you guys

1339
00:54:29,089 --> 00:54:26,400
are probably in your world bump into

1340
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:29,099
people who quote unquote have all the

1341
00:54:33,530 --> 00:54:31,200
answers and why me because I'm the

1342
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:33,540
smartest or I'm the most in tune or I'm

1343
00:54:39,890 --> 00:54:36,720
the most spiritual or whatever I

1344
00:54:42,770 --> 00:54:39,900
books because you know this thing

1345
00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:42,780
whatever this is is so much bigger than

1346
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:46,380
one person you know and it is once again

1347
00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:49,920
it's about us so each one of us has a

1348
00:54:54,349 --> 00:54:52,500
piece of this puzzle each one of us has

1349
00:54:58,490 --> 00:54:54,359
a different perspective each one of us

1350
00:55:00,290 --> 00:54:58,500
also you know once again our ego wants

1351
00:55:02,750 --> 00:55:00,300
to control this thing so we want to say

1352
00:55:04,910 --> 00:55:02,760
okay well these are arcturians or these

1353
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:04,920
are Grays or these or whatever

1354
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:07,920
palladians listen two things can be true

1355
00:55:12,650 --> 00:55:10,319
at the same time

1356
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:12,660
I could have black hair and gray hair at

1357
00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:15,599
the same time that's a fact okay so we

1358
00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:18,180
are dealing with many different facets

1359
00:55:22,910 --> 00:55:21,000
of this thing you know if you take if

1360
00:55:24,770 --> 00:55:22,920
you take the premise that life is

1361
00:55:26,809 --> 00:55:24,780
prolific throughout the Universe then

1362
00:55:28,790 --> 00:55:26,819
you have to you can't just say yes it's

1363
00:55:32,329 --> 00:55:28,800
prolific but only when it in regards to

1364
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,339
me right because I my mission is this

1365
00:55:36,109 --> 00:55:34,559
and it you know it is it pumps

1366
00:55:37,790 --> 00:55:36,119
everything else it just you know

1367
00:55:40,910 --> 00:55:37,800
penultimate to

1368
00:55:44,089 --> 00:55:40,920
and and for me you know why me

1369
00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:44,099
I I swiftly during the work of this film

1370
00:55:51,309 --> 00:55:47,700
I swiftly learned it had less to do

1371
00:55:55,309 --> 00:55:51,319
about me and more to do about us

1372
00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:55,319
because once again it's not that I am

1373
00:56:01,010 --> 00:55:57,780
destined to become this ascended master

1374
00:56:04,609 --> 00:56:01,020
or some crap like that it's it's about

1375
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:04,619
us collectively I I've used this silly

1376
00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:07,440
example many many times before but you

1377
00:56:10,790 --> 00:56:09,119
know you've heard this analogy where

1378
00:56:12,170 --> 00:56:10,800
they take three people smartest people

1379
00:56:13,549 --> 00:56:12,180
on the planet they throw them in this

1380
00:56:16,010 --> 00:56:13,559
dark room and they say hey what's in

1381
00:56:18,530 --> 00:56:16,020
there somebody says Ah it's a it's a

1382
00:56:20,270 --> 00:56:18,540
it's a whip no it's a spear no no no no

1383
00:56:22,609 --> 00:56:20,280
no it's a boulder and you turn on the

1384
00:56:25,309 --> 00:56:22,619
light it's an elephant okay but watch

1385
00:56:27,650 --> 00:56:25,319
this watch this it's always the Nuance

1386
00:56:29,630 --> 00:56:27,660
that bears the wisdom okay it's not the

1387
00:56:31,970 --> 00:56:29,640
facts the facts are blah blah blah but

1388
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,980
wisdom is in the is in that pudding

1389
00:56:36,109 --> 00:56:34,079
right these three people are the

1390
00:56:37,549 --> 00:56:36,119
smartest people we know so we know that

1391
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:37,559
they're not playing some game they're

1392
00:56:41,390 --> 00:56:39,839
really giving us their observations

1393
00:56:44,030 --> 00:56:41,400
but what are they doing they're

1394
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:44,040
handicapped because their senses can

1395
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:45,180
only detect

1396
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,240
so much of this thing they're only able

1397
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:50,400
to wrap their arms around so much of

1398
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,280
this huge thing and they're only able to

1399
00:56:57,710 --> 00:56:55,680
digest with their intellect so much of

1400
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:57,720
this thing right and then they're using

1401
00:57:02,270 --> 00:57:00,480
a clunky medium of language and trying

1402
00:57:04,250 --> 00:57:02,280
to convey to somebody outside that room

1403
00:57:05,870 --> 00:57:04,260
who now has to translate in their mind

1404
00:57:08,329 --> 00:57:05,880
and say oh well you mean this or you

1405
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:08,339
mean this here is the moral to the story

1406
00:57:14,930 --> 00:57:11,520
who is telling the truth well they all

1407
00:57:18,530 --> 00:57:14,940
are but what is the truth the is the

1408
00:57:21,410 --> 00:57:18,540
truth is the collective it is all of our

1409
00:57:23,329 --> 00:57:21,420
answers put together and sifted because

1410
00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:23,339
they're erroneous you know

1411
00:57:27,290 --> 00:57:25,200
representations there there are people

1412
00:57:28,849 --> 00:57:27,300
you know I've teased back and forth with

1413
00:57:30,770 --> 00:57:28,859
Debs you know I've met a few mermaid

1414
00:57:33,650 --> 00:57:30,780
people who want me to be the mermaid

1415
00:57:37,490 --> 00:57:33,660
king and have their mermaid babies okay

1416
00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:37,500
but but but by and large most of these

1417
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:39,660
people and you see it in the film these

1418
00:57:44,270 --> 00:57:41,700
people are people that you relate to you

1419
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:44,280
see them their mom and dad and the guy

1420
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:46,559
who owns the shop Don on the street and

1421
00:57:50,450 --> 00:57:48,960
the person who's a teacher or a welder

1422
00:57:52,370 --> 00:57:50,460
or whatever and they're just dealing

1423
00:57:55,010 --> 00:57:52,380
with something that is so outside the

1424
00:57:57,170 --> 00:57:55,020
realm and they are dealing with it and

1425
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:57,180
using the language and tools that they

1426
00:58:01,190 --> 00:57:59,280
have but if you put this all together

1427
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:01,200
and that was one of the things you know

1428
00:58:08,450 --> 00:58:04,559
in this film you see that some of these

1429
00:58:11,150 --> 00:58:08,460
uh encounters were similar to mine but

1430
00:58:14,329 --> 00:58:11,160
most of them are vastly different and

1431
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:14,339
each one of those was not edited meaning

1432
00:58:19,370 --> 00:58:16,319
that they are the raw and what we did

1433
00:58:21,470 --> 00:58:19,380
was we reflected in the reenactments but

1434
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:21,480
we didn't change the narrative to make

1435
00:58:27,170 --> 00:58:24,480
it suit me no no I wanted the truth I'm

1436
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:27,180
on this quest for this truth and that's

1437
00:58:31,250 --> 00:58:29,040
really where all these roads lead and I

1438
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:31,260
think honestly you know if you break if

1439
00:58:34,370 --> 00:58:32,640
you break it down if you break it down

1440
00:58:37,150 --> 00:58:34,380
even those people who you know scream

1441
00:58:40,130 --> 00:58:37,160
out their own name during sex

1442
00:58:42,650 --> 00:58:40,140
I think really at the bottom line they

1443
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:42,660
want to know the truth but the truth is

1444
00:58:47,870 --> 00:58:45,839
just bigger than what we can conceive

1445
00:58:49,849 --> 00:58:47,880
and wrap our arms around we have to

1446
00:58:51,770 --> 00:58:49,859
that's why the film ends in kind of like

1447
00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:51,780
an open-ended sentence as opposed to a

1448
00:58:55,250 --> 00:58:53,160
conclusion I'm getting a lot I've gotten

1449
00:58:57,049 --> 00:58:55,260
a lot of trouble by people oh you're the

1450
00:58:59,569 --> 00:58:57,059
answer man I say you missed the point

1451
00:59:02,829 --> 00:58:59,579
completely it's me looking for the

1452
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:02,839
answers right yeah and so

1453
00:59:08,270 --> 00:59:06,000
I'm still looking for those answers

1454
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:08,280
I think it's difficult people and we

1455
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,599
were chatting about this before the show

1456
00:59:13,309 --> 00:59:11,280
and you know Whitley strieber was uh

1457
00:59:15,890 --> 00:59:13,319
sort of in your movie as well and we

1458
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:15,900
interviewed him last week and again it's

1459
00:59:19,370 --> 00:59:17,760
it's weirder than you can think when you

1460
00:59:21,049 --> 00:59:19,380
start asking Whitley Streeper about that

1461
00:59:22,430 --> 00:59:21,059
but we got a lot of really good feedback

1462
00:59:23,690 --> 00:59:22,440
I thought we were going to get our heads

1463
00:59:26,030 --> 00:59:23,700
ripped off because normally we're

1464
00:59:27,890 --> 00:59:26,040
science and as fact as we can we don't

1465
00:59:30,410 --> 00:59:27,900
really go there but I think it's

1466
00:59:32,329 --> 00:59:30,420
people's wanting to make sense of the

1467
00:59:34,609 --> 00:59:32,339
crazy stuff that happened in their life

1468
00:59:36,770 --> 00:59:34,619
and who better than to give you

1469
00:59:38,809 --> 00:59:36,780
something to kind of mentally chew on

1470
00:59:40,849 --> 00:59:38,819
than somebody else who has an equally

1471
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,859
crazy story and it's like well I don't

1472
00:59:43,970 --> 00:59:42,240
know if I believe that but nobody

1473
00:59:46,250 --> 00:59:43,980
believes what I went through either so

1474
00:59:49,309 --> 00:59:46,260
it's kind of like we're all safe nobody

1475
00:59:50,930 --> 00:59:49,319
knows but I do think we are there have

1476
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:50,940
been people that I think started this

1477
00:59:55,849 --> 00:59:53,520
whole topic with good intentions they're

1478
00:59:57,890 --> 00:59:55,859
now kind of claiming that they have the

1479
00:59:59,210 --> 00:59:57,900
only legitimate videos or it's only on

1480
01:00:01,370 --> 00:59:59,220
their show that disclosure is going to

1481
01:00:04,010 --> 01:00:01,380
come and we joke around and call them

1482
01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:04,020
Messiahs of disclosure but it's really

1483
01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:05,640
not going to happen that way right we

1484
01:00:09,410 --> 01:00:07,619
all need to to kind of bring ourselves

1485
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:09,420
down and we're talking about a

1486
01:00:14,270 --> 01:00:11,280
phenomenon that is above us both

1487
01:00:16,910 --> 01:00:14,280
physically mentally spiritually so we

1488
01:00:18,770 --> 01:00:16,920
really are the ant in the picture so how

1489
01:00:21,530 --> 01:00:18,780
do we get an ego about that when we're

1490
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:21,540
discussing how small we really are you

1491
01:00:26,569 --> 01:00:23,760
know but what are your thoughts on uh

1492
01:00:28,609 --> 01:00:26,579
and and maybe maybe mention why Whitley

1493
01:00:30,589 --> 01:00:28,619
and was what was it about him that you

1494
01:00:32,450 --> 01:00:30,599
wanted to capture in your movie sure

1495
01:00:34,670 --> 01:00:32,460
well Louis I'll just say this you know I

1496
01:00:37,370 --> 01:00:34,680
I often think of you know this term

1497
01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:37,380
original sin and I think what original

1498
01:00:42,289 --> 01:00:39,480
sin really is is our ego we keep

1499
01:00:44,030 --> 01:00:42,299
tripping over it because we want to we

1500
01:00:45,770 --> 01:00:44,040
want to put things in a box we want to

1501
01:00:47,210 --> 01:00:45,780
name it you know and when if we can do

1502
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:47,220
those things then we're not afraid of it

1503
01:00:51,710 --> 01:00:50,160
we control it right and that's exactly

1504
01:00:54,170 --> 01:00:51,720
the way I was

1505
01:00:57,530 --> 01:00:54,180
um as far as Whitley goes as this is you

1506
01:01:00,349 --> 01:00:57,540
know I I experienced the film myself

1507
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:00,359
two ways I experience it as the person

1508
01:01:05,870 --> 01:01:03,359
it's about in many respects and as an

1509
01:01:07,970 --> 01:01:05,880
experiencer so I feel the visceral feel

1510
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:07,980
of the tug and the pull of the of the

1511
01:01:12,770 --> 01:01:10,799
emotions but I also view the film as a

1512
01:01:14,270 --> 01:01:12,780
filmmaker you know I'm not a I'm not

1513
01:01:16,490 --> 01:01:14,280
somebody who said hey I had a story

1514
01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:16,500
let's make let's make a film no I'm a

1515
01:01:21,730 --> 01:01:19,500
filmmaker and a TV uh show maker who

1516
01:01:25,789 --> 01:01:21,740
said listen this story has to be told

1517
01:01:28,010 --> 01:01:25,799
and so when I saw it it was unbalanced

1518
01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:28,020
it was too emotional I thought you know

1519
01:01:32,809 --> 01:01:29,640
what there's no there's a rhythm here

1520
01:01:34,910 --> 01:01:32,819
that needs kind of a Counterpoint and to

1521
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:34,920
your point where you say this man can

1522
01:01:39,470 --> 01:01:36,960
you know it can really take all of this

1523
01:01:42,349 --> 01:01:39,480
raw data and kind of encapsulate it and

1524
01:01:45,890 --> 01:01:42,359
kind of synthesize it into a way for us

1525
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:45,900
to have perspective and I needed him and

1526
01:01:51,410 --> 01:01:47,520
to tell you the truth as I stated before

1527
01:01:53,870 --> 01:01:51,420
I had no context in this world and uh

1528
01:01:56,210 --> 01:01:53,880
you know thank God once again for Deb

1529
01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:56,220
shotty who I refer to as my guardian

1530
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:58,079
angel because she has saved my bacon so

1531
01:02:02,450 --> 01:02:00,960
many times personally as a as as

1532
01:02:04,910 --> 01:02:02,460
somebody who was struggling with this

1533
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:04,920
but also as a producer in our film I

1534
01:02:08,270 --> 01:02:06,480
invited her to be a producer on the film

1535
01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:08,280
after she had made so many contributions

1536
01:02:11,930 --> 01:02:10,319
I'm like son of a gun you have to have

1537
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:11,940
some recognition you know for all this

1538
01:02:16,010 --> 01:02:13,920
work you've done and so maybe that's a

1539
01:02:19,309 --> 01:02:16,020
better question to ask Debs how we got

1540
01:02:22,250 --> 01:02:20,530
well

1541
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:22,260
again

1542
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:24,960
it's good to have friends right a friend

1543
01:02:31,849 --> 01:02:28,799
of a friend of a friend I knew was uh

1544
01:02:35,150 --> 01:02:31,859
good friends with Whitley and had become

1545
01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:35,160
good friends with Whitley just recently

1546
01:02:40,430 --> 01:02:38,520
because this is how convoluted all this

1547
01:02:44,510 --> 01:02:40,440
is because

1548
01:02:46,970 --> 01:02:44,520
uh that friend who uh became Whitley's

1549
01:02:49,250 --> 01:02:46,980
friend was involved in what we know as

1550
01:02:51,470 --> 01:02:49,260
ce5 you know Close Encounters of the

1551
01:02:54,650 --> 01:02:51,480
fifth kind it's kind of a process that

1552
01:02:57,650 --> 01:02:54,660
that's been popular now for about 25

1553
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:57,660
years uh human initiated contact where

1554
01:03:01,190 --> 01:02:59,520
people get together they do some of

1555
01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:01,200
those practices I was talking about some

1556
01:03:06,650 --> 01:03:03,119
breath work or some meditation or

1557
01:03:09,710 --> 01:03:06,660
whatever and then they hold a group

1558
01:03:11,630 --> 01:03:09,720
intention to have contact with

1559
01:03:16,490 --> 01:03:11,640
extraterrestrial beings

1560
01:03:19,370 --> 01:03:16,500
uh so this friend uh was Mark Sims and I

1561
01:03:22,130 --> 01:03:19,380
knew of him and got to know him through

1562
01:03:23,630 --> 01:03:22,140
another good friend who is in the film

1563
01:03:26,809 --> 01:03:23,640
um Kimberly porth

1564
01:03:29,089 --> 01:03:26,819
and uh so

1565
01:03:31,630 --> 01:03:29,099
Mark had become great friends with

1566
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:31,640
another friend of mine Jimmy Blanchette

1567
01:03:37,609 --> 01:03:35,520
who works with radio technology in

1568
01:03:39,710 --> 01:03:37,619
making contact with extraterrestrials

1569
01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:39,720
and has just blown that world completely

1570
01:03:44,990 --> 01:03:42,720
apart in the last few years and I was uh

1571
01:03:47,150 --> 01:03:45,000
one of Jimmy's friends and so we all

1572
01:03:50,930 --> 01:03:47,160
kind of have this interweaving of

1573
01:03:54,010 --> 01:03:50,940
friendship and I remembered uh that just

1574
01:03:57,530 --> 01:03:54,020
right before we started making this film

1575
01:04:01,130 --> 01:03:57,540
that Mark and Whitley got together with

1576
01:04:02,630 --> 01:04:01,140
Jimmy and finally did some got Jimmy to

1577
01:04:04,970 --> 01:04:02,640
do some interviews Jimmy was very

1578
01:04:08,809 --> 01:04:04,980
private about his work with just a few

1579
01:04:10,670 --> 01:04:08,819
of us up until that time but suddenly

1580
01:04:13,130 --> 01:04:10,680
you know they both kind of convinced him

1581
01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:13,140
look your work is phenomenal and we need

1582
01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:15,359
to get this out to the world and so

1583
01:04:20,750 --> 01:04:18,960
Jimmy finally did by making some uh

1584
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:20,760
interviews I believe with Grant Cameron

1585
01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:23,760
was maybe the first one uh showing how

1586
01:04:29,150 --> 01:04:26,400
he makes contact in you know personally

1587
01:04:31,549 --> 01:04:29,160
in in a group with these little handheld

1588
01:04:34,730 --> 01:04:31,559
radios and the big giant radio station

1589
01:04:38,569 --> 01:04:34,740
and antenna that he built himself

1590
01:04:40,490 --> 01:04:38,579
and so I knew that Mark had become good

1591
01:04:41,690 --> 01:04:40,500
friends with Whitley because of this

1592
01:04:43,609 --> 01:04:41,700
Association

1593
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:43,619
and when John said

1594
01:04:47,450 --> 01:04:45,359
you know I really would like to get

1595
01:04:50,089 --> 01:04:47,460
Whitley Streeper

1596
01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:50,099
in the movie I just don't know how to

1597
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:53,400
get to him and I I I don't know it was

1598
01:04:56,990 --> 01:04:55,440
just one of those again voices in my

1599
01:04:59,329 --> 01:04:57,000
head said

1600
01:05:03,349 --> 01:04:59,339
call Mark and see if he can get Whitley

1601
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:03,359
and to meet with John and and that's

1602
01:05:06,530 --> 01:05:04,799
kind of how it happened

1603
01:05:08,270 --> 01:05:06,540
and then John you can finish the store

1604
01:05:11,089 --> 01:05:08,280
if you want to because that it's kind of

1605
01:05:13,010 --> 01:05:11,099
fun how you know I'll just interject the

1606
01:05:15,230 --> 01:05:13,020
Whitley is like that we also had to pull

1607
01:05:17,329 --> 01:05:15,240
a string just to get anywhere close to

1608
01:05:19,849 --> 01:05:17,339
Whitley's dreamers so for all the people

1609
01:05:22,190 --> 01:05:19,859
that you know throw stones at him he is

1610
01:05:24,410 --> 01:05:22,200
the highest in demand Talent you can get

1611
01:05:25,450 --> 01:05:24,420
and what a gentleman too right he's a

1612
01:05:28,130 --> 01:05:25,460
joke

1613
01:05:29,870 --> 01:05:28,140
right back unless you know him and he

1614
01:05:32,210 --> 01:05:29,880
knows what your intentions are good luck

1615
01:05:33,950 --> 01:05:32,220
getting him on your show and he blessed

1616
01:05:35,690 --> 01:05:33,960
us as well and to your point again about

1617
01:05:38,089 --> 01:05:35,700
Jimmy Blanchette we did two episodes

1618
01:05:40,910 --> 01:05:38,099
with him back to back phenomenal mind

1619
01:05:43,069 --> 01:05:40,920
become a great friend we just we love

1620
01:05:44,809 --> 01:05:43,079
him because we can feel you know he's

1621
01:05:46,670 --> 01:05:44,819
doing it for the right reasons he's not

1622
01:05:48,530 --> 01:05:46,680
so real he's not making money he's not

1623
01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:48,540
selling this he's encouraging everybody

1624
01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:51,119
try it yourself and share it we love

1625
01:05:54,890 --> 01:05:52,920
that and same goes for Whitley too he

1626
01:05:58,370 --> 01:05:54,900
just had another huge breakthrough this

1627
01:06:01,370 --> 01:05:58,380
week which is blowing my mind but uh

1628
01:06:03,470 --> 01:06:01,380
back more to the point Whitley is a

1629
01:06:04,930 --> 01:06:03,480
person of the highest Integrity I've

1630
01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:04,940
never seen anybody

1631
01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:09,839
uh who's that you know he is who he is

1632
01:06:15,470 --> 01:06:12,960
um he's also fairly you know

1633
01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:15,480
uh protective of his own personal life

1634
01:06:22,849 --> 01:06:20,160
for many good reasons and so to have him

1635
01:06:25,549 --> 01:06:22,859
uh on your show for instance you know

1636
01:06:28,069 --> 01:06:25,559
how hard it was but it's very meaningful

1637
01:06:31,370 --> 01:06:28,079
when you do get to pair up with him

1638
01:06:33,289 --> 01:06:31,380
because he chooses wisely so go ahead

1639
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:33,299
John

1640
01:06:38,930 --> 01:06:36,720
uh I I was just going to say that um my

1641
01:06:42,890 --> 01:06:38,940
my story about Whitley strieber is is

1642
01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:42,900
actually very humorous he um he was very

1643
01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:44,880
tough on me when I finally got a hold of

1644
01:06:49,309 --> 01:06:47,520
him and he he ended up interviewing me

1645
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:49,319
and I thought wow you know I've dealt

1646
01:06:55,089 --> 01:06:51,359
with some of the biggest you know stars

1647
01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:55,099
in popular film and TV around the world

1648
01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:58,319
uh I I I wasn't really sure why I was

1649
01:07:02,990 --> 01:07:00,240
getting this kind of uh feedback from

1650
01:07:05,690 --> 01:07:03,000
him but then after some time

1651
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:05,700
uh I realized that he wanted to make

1652
01:07:10,190 --> 01:07:07,440
sure that I was not one of the mermaid

1653
01:07:12,349 --> 01:07:10,200
people I keep saying that poor poor

1654
01:07:14,329 --> 01:07:12,359
mermaid people God bless them

1655
01:07:15,289 --> 01:07:14,339
um so but then after that I said listen

1656
01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:15,299
sir

1657
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:16,319
um what I'm going to do is I'm going to

1658
01:07:20,450 --> 01:07:18,720
send you all the questions up front

1659
01:07:22,010 --> 01:07:20,460
and so he thought that was a good idea

1660
01:07:23,930 --> 01:07:22,020
and what I did was I went out and I

1661
01:07:27,289 --> 01:07:23,940
literally purchased every book that he

1662
01:07:31,010 --> 01:07:27,299
had ever written uh all 50 of them all

1663
01:07:32,870 --> 01:07:31,020
well actually there there's more now I

1664
01:07:34,370 --> 01:07:32,880
know but I I purchased every single one

1665
01:07:36,650 --> 01:07:34,380
of them and I read them all I'm a

1666
01:07:38,510 --> 01:07:36,660
bibliophile so I I read them all and

1667
01:07:40,010 --> 01:07:38,520
then I came up with 63 questions and I

1668
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:40,020
sent them to them they were all 63

1669
01:07:44,329 --> 01:07:42,720
paragraphs and I said sir if you find

1670
01:07:46,849 --> 01:07:44,339
anything that you take on bridge to

1671
01:07:49,010 --> 01:07:46,859
please take the big red pen whatever to

1672
01:07:51,230 --> 01:07:49,020
his credit he said John he called back

1673
01:07:52,970 --> 01:07:51,240
to me said John these some of these

1674
01:07:53,930 --> 01:07:52,980
questions are pretty you know intense I

1675
01:07:55,789 --> 01:07:53,940
haven't been asked some of these

1676
01:07:58,430 --> 01:07:55,799
questions he said I approve these

1677
01:08:00,289 --> 01:07:58,440
questions so this is fine so Debs and I

1678
01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:00,299
go out to the coast the day before

1679
01:08:03,470 --> 01:08:02,400
because we want to we want to build some

1680
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:03,480
sort of Rapport we're going to be on

1681
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:05,520
camera you know so we want to we don't

1682
01:08:09,589 --> 01:08:06,960
want it to be stilted we don't want it

1683
01:08:13,010 --> 01:08:09,599
to be you know difficult on camera and

1684
01:08:16,430 --> 01:08:13,020
at this point he is charming and funny

1685
01:08:18,650 --> 01:08:16,440
and sarcastic and he makes fun of me and

1686
01:08:21,050 --> 01:08:18,660
I have to tell you I belly laughed the

1687
01:08:22,910 --> 01:08:21,060
entire time I I have a great sense of

1688
01:08:25,789 --> 01:08:22,920
humor and I thought this was funny as

1689
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,799
hell him teasing me so

1690
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:28,080
the next day we're going to do the shoot

1691
01:08:31,610 --> 01:08:30,480
we're in this beautiful place Mark Sims

1692
01:08:33,650 --> 01:08:31,620
home

1693
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:33,660
and I get everything and he was kind of

1694
01:08:37,130 --> 01:08:35,759
impressed you know I teased you know a

1695
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:37,140
little bit when we were off air about

1696
01:08:40,510 --> 01:08:38,880
you know a lot of these films were made

1697
01:08:43,070 --> 01:08:40,520
with two guys named Larry and a camera

1698
01:08:44,329 --> 01:08:43,080
uh but I have a big crew so I mean you

1699
01:08:46,010 --> 01:08:44,339
know with makeup people we have all

1700
01:08:48,110 --> 01:08:46,020
these people and he says wow this is you

1701
01:08:50,329 --> 01:08:48,120
know a thing and I told him sir you know

1702
01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:50,339
I'm serious about this and we get them

1703
01:08:55,249 --> 01:08:52,799
ready and we're just about ready to go

1704
01:08:57,289 --> 01:08:55,259
on air and I leaned down to him and I

1705
01:08:59,209 --> 01:08:57,299
say Mr Schreiber I just want to assure

1706
01:09:01,490 --> 01:08:59,219
you that I'm going to make you look

1707
01:09:03,950 --> 01:09:01,500
perfect the light's perfect

1708
01:09:06,829 --> 01:09:03,960
sound is perfect every you look great

1709
01:09:08,570 --> 01:09:06,839
every and he he grabs my forearm

1710
01:09:11,209 --> 01:09:08,580
and he looks up at me there's a picture

1711
01:09:13,010 --> 01:09:11,219
of us actually I'm leaning down and he

1712
01:09:14,930 --> 01:09:13,020
says John I

1713
01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:14,940
I look

1714
01:09:17,870 --> 01:09:16,799
he said to tell you the truth I don't

1715
01:09:20,450 --> 01:09:17,880
care at all

1716
01:09:21,769 --> 01:09:20,460
I just want to tell the truth

1717
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:21,779
and I thought

1718
01:09:25,849 --> 01:09:24,239
son of a gun man

1719
01:09:28,189 --> 01:09:25,859
you know this guy's gonna shame me into

1720
01:09:29,689 --> 01:09:28,199
silence he what kind of Integrity are we

1721
01:09:33,709 --> 01:09:29,699
dealing with I thought man when I grow

1722
01:09:35,090 --> 01:09:33,719
up I want to be you right so we do we do

1723
01:09:38,749 --> 01:09:35,100
the interview

1724
01:09:41,150 --> 01:09:38,759
and I I mean it's a long interview

1725
01:09:43,010 --> 01:09:41,160
and so what I said to him is a sister

1726
01:09:47,390 --> 01:09:43,020
listen let me send you the entire tape

1727
01:09:49,070 --> 01:09:47,400
okay if I ventured off the trail if I

1728
01:09:50,809 --> 01:09:49,080
did something tangential if you don't

1729
01:09:52,430 --> 01:09:50,819
like something please tell me and we'll

1730
01:09:54,050 --> 01:09:52,440
just cut it out of the main main thing

1731
01:09:55,970 --> 01:09:54,060
to his credit he watched the entire

1732
01:09:58,370 --> 01:09:55,980
thing he said John go ahead everything's

1733
01:10:01,070 --> 01:09:58,380
good so my next stage was to take his

1734
01:10:04,250 --> 01:10:01,080
pieces and put them into the film that

1735
01:10:06,770 --> 01:10:04,260
were germane and so I I assured him once

1736
01:10:09,290 --> 01:10:06,780
again that I wasn't going to edit it uh

1737
01:10:12,050 --> 01:10:09,300
to uh you know beneficial perspective of

1738
01:10:15,169 --> 01:10:12,060
mine I wanted to make sure that I hadn't

1739
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:15,179
curtailed his message or changed it or

1740
01:10:18,650 --> 01:10:16,800
tried to intimate that he was saying

1741
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:18,660
something when he wasn't and so I sent

1742
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:20,640
him the entire movie I said sir if you

1743
01:10:25,370 --> 01:10:22,980
have if you have any any issues at all

1744
01:10:27,530 --> 01:10:25,380
please tell me we will cut it out he

1745
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:27,540
watched film a couple times came back to

1746
01:10:32,450 --> 01:10:30,000
me so Sean this is the message I put my

1747
01:10:34,189 --> 01:10:32,460
blessing on it now here is the cherry on

1748
01:10:36,770 --> 01:10:34,199
that Sunday

1749
01:10:39,410 --> 01:10:36,780
Debs on this line

1750
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:39,420
and Mr streber on this line

1751
01:10:43,870 --> 01:10:42,960
accepted absolutely no money to be in

1752
01:10:46,910 --> 01:10:43,880
this film

1753
01:10:50,090 --> 01:10:46,920
zero dollars they have received zero

1754
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:50,100
compensation they did it because it was

1755
01:10:57,229 --> 01:10:52,800
important for people to hear it

1756
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:57,239
now that my friends is integrity

1757
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:00,960
yeah it's it's being Class Acts you know

1758
01:11:06,290 --> 01:11:03,600
and like total classes or that uh you

1759
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:06,300
know before we we hit record that

1760
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:08,159
all the people that Louie and I have got

1761
01:11:12,649 --> 01:11:10,400
to to talk to including yourselves

1762
01:11:14,330 --> 01:11:12,659
everybody's humble

1763
01:11:16,370 --> 01:11:14,340
um they say don't meet your Heroes but

1764
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:16,380
in the case of this field of study

1765
01:11:19,970 --> 01:11:18,000
definitely meet your Heroes everybody's

1766
01:11:22,370 --> 01:11:19,980
been a sweetheart and I've been very

1767
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,380
given with their time and honesty right

1768
01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:24,960
I think in this field it's honesty best

1769
01:11:30,169 --> 01:11:27,600
policy we don't know we don't know right

1770
01:11:31,850 --> 01:11:30,179
it always irks me when somebody's on um

1771
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:31,860
the news whether it's breakfast

1772
01:11:36,169 --> 01:11:33,840
television or late night when you talk

1773
01:11:39,229 --> 01:11:36,179
about UFOs and they'll say UFO expert

1774
01:11:40,850 --> 01:11:39,239
and I hate that because there is no

1775
01:11:42,050 --> 01:11:40,860
expert in our field of study right

1776
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:42,060
there's people that are more

1777
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:44,159
knowledgeable maybe but there's no

1778
01:11:48,410 --> 01:11:47,040
experts We're All in This Together the

1779
01:11:50,750 --> 01:11:48,420
biggest problem we have is that

1780
01:11:52,669 --> 01:11:50,760
obviously because we're tribal whatever

1781
01:11:55,070 --> 01:11:52,679
we experience over our tribe we don't

1782
01:11:56,930 --> 01:11:55,080
want to tell the other tribes because it

1783
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:56,940
might be them spying on us right that's

1784
01:12:01,850 --> 01:11:58,560
our mentality and this is why we're not

1785
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:01,860
getting along globally on this issue but

1786
01:12:06,649 --> 01:12:04,080
it is a global issue uh the people that

1787
01:12:09,050 --> 01:12:06,659
that we talk to is from all around the

1788
01:12:11,090 --> 01:12:09,060
world everybody's having the same amount

1789
01:12:13,250 --> 01:12:11,100
of phenomenon happening in their necks

1790
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:13,260
of the woods as the United States the

1791
01:12:17,870 --> 01:12:16,320
United States has taken because it you

1792
01:12:19,550 --> 01:12:17,880
know it's it's the United States it's

1793
01:12:21,290 --> 01:12:19,560
it's sort of Taken everybody's looking

1794
01:12:23,330 --> 01:12:21,300
at it like okay well wait till you come

1795
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:23,340
out and tell us that you're having an

1796
01:12:26,330 --> 01:12:24,960
issue with this too before we come out

1797
01:12:28,130 --> 01:12:26,340
and speak about it

1798
01:12:29,450 --> 01:12:28,140
but I don't think we're at that stage

1799
01:12:32,209 --> 01:12:29,460
anymore I think we're all starting to

1800
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:32,219
say it's it's with that new Arrow

1801
01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:35,760
meetings uh complete waste of time and

1802
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:38,400
an insult to to us you know the millions

1803
01:12:42,050 --> 01:12:40,080
of people that have seen something or

1804
01:12:43,970 --> 01:12:42,060
experienced something it's an insult

1805
01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:43,980
that's like spitting in our faces uh the

1806
01:12:49,130 --> 01:12:45,360
statement of I'd rather make it somebody

1807
01:12:50,810 --> 01:12:49,140
else's problem uh is insulting and if

1808
01:12:52,669 --> 01:12:50,820
that guy is not willing to do the job

1809
01:12:55,610 --> 01:12:52,679
that he was hired to do put somebody

1810
01:12:57,950 --> 01:12:55,620
else in charge like why not fund mufon

1811
01:12:59,870 --> 01:12:57,960
like properly funded with government

1812
01:13:01,729 --> 01:12:59,880
fundings to investigate this because

1813
01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:01,739
they've been doing it since 1969 for

1814
01:13:05,810 --> 01:13:04,140
free and yet most of the government's

1815
01:13:08,510 --> 01:13:05,820
records on this that went to Congress

1816
01:13:10,370 --> 01:13:08,520
comes from mufon right and they're just

1817
01:13:12,649 --> 01:13:10,380
handing it down to to new people that

1818
01:13:14,930 --> 01:13:12,659
know nothing about this subject and will

1819
01:13:17,209 --> 01:13:14,940
only focus on a small aspect of the

1820
01:13:19,250 --> 01:13:17,219
subject which is just the the crafts in

1821
01:13:21,649 --> 01:13:19,260
the sky what about when they land when

1822
01:13:22,729 --> 01:13:21,659
they take people uh we're interviewing a

1823
01:13:24,830 --> 01:13:22,739
gentleman

1824
01:13:26,030 --> 01:13:24,840
um I think this afternoon who uh talks

1825
01:13:28,130 --> 01:13:26,040
about you know when they're coming from

1826
01:13:31,010 --> 01:13:28,140
outer space the fast Walkers that NASA

1827
01:13:34,130 --> 01:13:31,020
captures like this encompasses such a

1828
01:13:35,209 --> 01:13:34,140
wide variety of subjects so yeah it's an

1829
01:13:37,250 --> 01:13:35,219
insult when we hear that the

1830
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:37,260
government's uh looking into it again

1831
01:13:41,570 --> 01:13:38,880
and they just

1832
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:41,580
put out garbage insult you know to

1833
01:13:46,610 --> 01:13:44,880
injury if I may though if I may I'm

1834
01:13:48,410 --> 01:13:46,620
always I'm always you know as I said

1835
01:13:50,810 --> 01:13:48,420
earlier I'm always looking at the Nuance

1836
01:13:53,330 --> 01:13:50,820
because that's where the wisdom is and

1837
01:13:55,490 --> 01:13:53,340
let me share this with you it's not the

1838
01:13:57,590 --> 01:13:55,500
answer that they claimed it would be or

1839
01:14:00,050 --> 01:13:57,600
some people expected it to be but watch

1840
01:14:03,050 --> 01:14:00,060
what it has done it has changed that

1841
01:14:04,490 --> 01:14:03,060
Paradigm don't don't follow me there are

1842
01:14:06,649 --> 01:14:04,500
three basic types of people in this

1843
01:14:08,270 --> 01:14:06,659
world they're the what I call the shoe

1844
01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:08,280
Watchers these are the cats that look at

1845
01:14:12,410 --> 01:14:10,080
their calculators or their phones to

1846
01:14:13,970 --> 01:14:12,420
study their stocks and bonds right

1847
01:14:15,890 --> 01:14:13,980
they don't do anything else and what

1848
01:14:17,330 --> 01:14:15,900
they think is everybody else who looks

1849
01:14:19,729 --> 01:14:17,340
at about this stuff or anything other

1850
01:14:21,470 --> 01:14:19,739
we're all crazy and we're tinfoil hats

1851
01:14:22,850 --> 01:14:21,480
right then you have the people in the

1852
01:14:24,649 --> 01:14:22,860
middle who are kind of like pseudo

1853
01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:24,659
intellectuals they have a leg on both

1854
01:14:28,430 --> 01:14:26,880
sides of the line and they say well you

1855
01:14:29,570 --> 01:14:28,440
know mathematically maybe there's

1856
01:14:31,250 --> 01:14:29,580
something out there but what does it

1857
01:14:33,530 --> 01:14:31,260
really have to do with us they can't get

1858
01:14:35,209 --> 01:14:33,540
here from there and then you have people

1859
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:35,219
like us at the end of the cul-de-sac

1860
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:37,920
having a small block party okay now

1861
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:41,040
watch what happens even though these are

1862
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:43,199
Big disappointments in the news and

1863
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:45,360
insulting I agree with you a thousand

1864
01:14:49,490 --> 01:14:46,800
percent

1865
01:14:51,950 --> 01:14:49,500
but Watch What Happens that first group

1866
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:51,960
of people those shoe Watchers they're

1867
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:54,239
collecting away at their portfolios and

1868
01:14:57,770 --> 01:14:55,679
they say what what was in the Wall

1869
01:14:59,570 --> 01:14:57,780
Street Journal what was in this one what

1870
01:15:02,450 --> 01:14:59,580
the hell are they looking at and they

1871
01:15:05,209 --> 01:15:02,460
for the very first time

1872
01:15:08,510 --> 01:15:05,219
look up in the sky now if you don't look

1873
01:15:10,010 --> 01:15:08,520
you'll never see right so this is a huge

1874
01:15:12,590 --> 01:15:10,020
change now watch let's push down even

1875
01:15:14,450 --> 01:15:12,600
further they look up in the sky with

1876
01:15:16,910 --> 01:15:14,460
some sort of expectation because watch

1877
01:15:19,370 --> 01:15:16,920
you and I are not authorities they trust

1878
01:15:21,050 --> 01:15:19,380
but they attract they trust the dod they

1879
01:15:23,209 --> 01:15:21,060
trust these people and they say

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something is going on up there so they

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look up with some sort of an expectation

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that they in fact could qualify to see

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these things and also a duty because you

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01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:31,739
know it could be the Russians or it

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could be the Chinese okay this is a

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complete 180 change from where they were

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they were watching their shoes and they

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bet I bet you dimes of dollars in 20

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years from now they'll be the ones at

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parties who say you know I have always

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seen these things and I just didn't want

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to scare the rest of you they'll be

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those people now watch the second group

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of people the pseudo-intellectuals who

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say ah you know what about they say what

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they're they're spending my tax money on

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what and they look up and they go

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through the same sort of paradigm shift

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and then at the end of this if you think

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of it as a domino hitting another Domino

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they all lead back to this little

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cul-de-sac that we've been sitting and

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roasting our weenies on and now they say

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what does this all mean

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and so this is where I think this

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disclosure is it will not come from the

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government because look they only do two

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things they control

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and they tax

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they control information they control

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where you live they control you where

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you work your control kind of vaccines

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you get whatever and they tax so they

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can control this is what they're going

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to do so we can't expect it coming from

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01:16:43,729 --> 01:16:41,280
them to your point it will come from

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people around the globe sharing this

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information which is really at the end

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of my formula

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takes all of us

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and that's precisely why we do this show

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we want to bring different angles

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different phenomenon we'll have a math

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whiz one week like Jimmy Blanchette and

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01:17:01,729 --> 01:16:59,159
we'll have Whitley strieber all

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experiential can't prove any of it but

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equally as valid and equally as

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important to hear these people's stories

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01:17:10,250 --> 01:17:08,400
again we are poor observers and you know

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big egos to say that well if I don't

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have proof well who's proof and if you

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did have proof you probably wouldn't

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agree that it's proof you know like if

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the president right now and said aliens

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are real half of the people that don't

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01:17:23,810 --> 01:17:21,600
like him would say oh it's just an

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01:17:26,030 --> 01:17:23,820
agenda so it wouldn't even work the kind

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01:17:29,209 --> 01:17:26,040
of proof we're seeking doesn't actually

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exist and uh yeah if you don't come at

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01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:31,260
it from the right perspective very

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01:17:35,450 --> 01:17:33,600
quickly people start to see your true

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intent and I kind of like the fact that

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the people who have made all the noise

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of I know everything they're getting

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roasted right now in the world of social

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01:17:47,030 --> 01:17:43,920
media Community is dealing with its own

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nuisances and I'm very happy of that

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01:17:51,169 --> 01:17:49,140
um but before we rap I want to get to

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01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:51,179
know where can people find this movie

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and you know tell us a bit about

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01:17:56,810 --> 01:17:54,480
yourself if they want to follow both

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01:17:58,970 --> 01:17:56,820
udabs and John where can people learn

1953
01:18:02,090 --> 01:17:58,980
more about your work

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ladies first okay well

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01:18:08,570 --> 01:18:05,820
um people can just type in my name Debs

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01:18:10,729 --> 01:18:08,580
Shakti anywhere you'll pull up my

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01:18:14,570 --> 01:18:10,739
website all my socials are under the

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01:18:19,669 --> 01:18:17,090
um I'm on pretty much all the platforms

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and I'm as active as can possibly be

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with all the work that I have uh

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thanks in part to the film that's opened

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up a whole new Vista for people I think

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01:18:32,990 --> 01:18:30,719
they saw the experiencers in the film

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01:18:36,229 --> 01:18:33,000
and felt like maybe they could trust

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someone finally and that has been such a

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01:18:41,330 --> 01:18:38,820
revelation for me because it just brings

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joy to my heart to work with folks and I

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01:18:47,149 --> 01:18:43,920
work with everybody but uh yeah I have a

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website debc.com YouTube channel Deb

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01:18:50,810 --> 01:18:48,960
Shakti

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01:18:53,149 --> 01:18:50,820
type in the name and that's how you find

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01:18:56,450 --> 01:18:53,159
me and I'll answer you might take me a

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01:18:57,890 --> 01:18:56,460
couple days but I'll answer awesome what

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01:18:59,930 --> 01:18:57,900
about you John where can people find out

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01:19:01,970 --> 01:18:59,940
more about you sir well let me just say

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01:19:04,850 --> 01:19:01,980
Deb Shockey saved my life and she can

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help you too I guarantee it

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01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:07,440
um as far as my name is John Yost Yost

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01:19:12,410 --> 01:19:10,560
you can find me on on Google you can

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01:19:14,030 --> 01:19:12,420
find me on Facebook you can find me on

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01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:14,040
Twitter the film is called alien

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01:19:18,649 --> 01:19:16,080
abduction answers and what it does is it

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01:19:20,750 --> 01:19:18,659
takes people from fear and ignorance to

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01:19:22,729 --> 01:19:20,760
some sense of understanding about this

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01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:22,739
and it will help you you'll find

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01:19:26,990 --> 01:19:25,199
yourself in that film

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01:19:29,689 --> 01:19:27,000
um the film is released all throughout

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01:19:31,070 --> 01:19:29,699
North America on well you can find it on

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01:19:33,410 --> 01:19:31,080
YouTube if you want so you can find it

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01:19:35,030 --> 01:19:33,420
on Amazon Prime you can find it on

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01:19:36,890 --> 01:19:35,040
Google Play you can find it all

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01:19:38,330 --> 01:19:36,900
throughout internationally it's

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01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:38,340
accessible through a streaming service

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01:19:45,050 --> 01:19:42,719
called kgr I'm sorry kgra radio anybody

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01:19:47,209 --> 01:19:45,060
can go there and be able to tap into it

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uh in addition to that we're opening up

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01:19:52,669 --> 01:19:49,440
markets in the UK and Australia and

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01:19:54,470 --> 01:19:52,679
Romania and Germany and Spain and Debs

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01:19:56,330 --> 01:19:54,480
doesn't even know this I just sealed the

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01:19:57,950 --> 01:19:56,340
deal last night this will be through the

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a e networks

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01:20:02,209 --> 01:20:00,840
um so it'll be available worldwide uh

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01:20:04,430 --> 01:20:02,219
for that and I'm working on the next

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01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:04,440
movie called alien abduction

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01:20:09,709 --> 01:20:07,440
Awakening because after you have this

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01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:09,719
some sense of understanding

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01:20:14,169 --> 01:20:12,239
you can start to make decisions and it

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01:20:16,370 --> 01:20:14,179
takes you to integrate that information

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01:20:18,050 --> 01:20:16,380
and that's what this next film is about

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01:20:20,330 --> 01:20:18,060
I thought that all of my experiences

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01:20:23,090 --> 01:20:20,340
were over when I was seven years old I

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01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:23,100
made this film and now I can't shut that

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01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:24,600
door

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01:20:29,689 --> 01:20:25,679
yeah

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you know um I'm just huge

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01:20:35,090 --> 01:20:31,760
um thank you for you know coming on and

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01:20:36,770 --> 01:20:35,100
talking to us about this subject Louie

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01:20:38,930 --> 01:20:36,780
and I always appreciative of everybody

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01:20:41,570 --> 01:20:38,940
that has enough

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01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:41,580
um you know proverbial balls to uh come

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01:20:46,610 --> 01:20:43,440
in and and talk about this because it

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01:20:48,770 --> 01:20:46,620
takes guts it takes guts and for a long

2023
01:20:50,630 --> 01:20:48,780
time especially you know if you're in

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01:20:53,149 --> 01:20:50,640
the 70s you had experiences in the 70s

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01:20:55,070 --> 01:20:53,159
and 80s you could not talk about it it

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01:20:56,510 --> 01:20:55,080
was you know shut up

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01:20:58,189 --> 01:20:56,520
um but we're at a point now where we're

2028
01:21:00,050 --> 01:20:58,199
saying no let's talk about it it's time

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01:21:03,229 --> 01:21:00,060
that we talk about it address a dead on

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01:21:05,330 --> 01:21:03,239
and I I really love the movie uh Louis

2031
01:21:08,209 --> 01:21:05,340
and I both recommend it please watch it

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01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:08,219
uh if you are an experiencer

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01:21:12,410 --> 01:21:10,080
um definitely watch this movie because

2034
01:21:13,910 --> 01:21:12,420
it will make you more comfortable with

2035
01:21:16,370 --> 01:21:13,920
the fact of knowing that a lot of people

2036
01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:16,380
are going through this and

2037
01:21:21,770 --> 01:21:19,199
um just quickly before we go I know let

2038
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:21,780
you guys go here but Debs if somebody is

2039
01:21:25,490 --> 01:21:23,760
experiencing these things and they've

2040
01:21:27,830 --> 01:21:25,500
never talked about it before what advice

2041
01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:27,840
would would you give them

2042
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:34,130
but feel a little bit of trust or

2043
01:21:38,209 --> 01:21:36,480
comfort with you can always talk to me

2044
01:21:40,729 --> 01:21:38,219
but you don't have to talk to me there

2045
01:21:43,790 --> 01:21:40,739
are millions of people out there wanting

2046
01:21:44,630 --> 01:21:43,800
to speak about the same subject with you

2047
01:21:48,830 --> 01:21:44,640
um

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01:21:51,410 --> 01:21:48,840
if you go to a Thanksgiving dinner or a

2049
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:51,420
holiday dinner with relatives and

2050
01:21:56,270 --> 01:21:54,719
friends like us not if you ask the

2051
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:56,280
question that that John was talking

2052
01:22:00,050 --> 01:21:58,080
about have you ever had an experience

2053
01:22:02,330 --> 01:22:00,060
you can't explain

2054
01:22:04,010 --> 01:22:02,340
um and just ask that group of people

2055
01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:04,020
probably at least a third of those

2056
01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:06,000
people will want to talk to you and

2057
01:22:11,870 --> 01:22:08,880
you'll find that you know you have

2058
01:22:14,570 --> 01:22:11,880
something in common you're not alone

2059
01:22:16,729 --> 01:22:14,580
um but yeah talk to someone

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01:22:18,290 --> 01:22:16,739
that's amazing advice yeah it went very

2061
01:22:20,630 --> 01:22:18,300
well said well thank you very much both

2062
01:22:22,430 --> 01:22:20,640
of you Deb Shakti John Yost the film is

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01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:22,440
alien abduction answers we are both a

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01:22:27,130 --> 01:22:24,960
fan it gets our our uh I guess three

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01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:27,140
fingers

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01:22:32,209 --> 01:22:30,239
I like that yeah yeah okay so it gets

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01:22:33,649 --> 01:22:32,219
our sealed approval and uh everyone out

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01:22:35,090 --> 01:22:33,659
in viewer World let us know what you

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01:22:37,370 --> 01:22:35,100
thought of today's show please leave us

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01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,380
a comment like dislike we just want to

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01:22:41,149 --> 01:22:39,360
hear your feedback uh and if you want to

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01:22:43,070 --> 01:22:41,159
contact us you can we do get back to

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01:22:44,810 --> 01:22:43,080
everybody as well so big thanks to Our

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01:22:46,490 --> 01:22:44,820
Guest today uh we'd love to have you

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01:22:47,870 --> 01:22:46,500
guys back in the future when you get

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01:22:50,149 --> 01:22:47,880
that next movie John you let us know

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01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:50,159
we'll have you on brother yes sir thank

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you thanks Jason thanks Louie thanks